Third Party Shitcannery, the mega-richs' hopes of Netanyahu'ing Trump back into office.

Stardog FPV

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Not mad just saying if they would've done it differently it wouldn't look shady. No one is buying the whole "he didn't know he was gonna drop out in February" story.

Not gonna get into Joe's record lol that speaks for itself.

Nice to meet you too!
 

hanimmal

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Not mad just saying if they would've done it differently it wouldn't look shady. No one is buying the whole "he didn't know he was gonna drop out in February" story.
Shit, I think this was the game plan if everything went well back when Harris said this:


I think it was a pretty brilliant plan if it was since Trump and his troll army are floored atm. I apologize if it sounded like I was saying you were a part of that group, them being mad I think is pretty spectacular.

Not gonna get into Joe's record lol that speaks for itself.
Yeah I totally agree here. Bringing us out of a global pandemic while fighting off all the dictators who have been tearing apart their nation's ability to elect their leaders who Trump just happens to be besties with because he wants to do the same here.

I'll take the most jobs gained during a presidency ever any day of the week, especially when the alternative (Republicans) have started recessions every single time they have the keys to the nation since at least the last half century.

Nice to meet you too!
 

hanimmal

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https://apnews.com/article/republican-lawyers-cornel-west-arizona-88cd1b4f698715a3071a93b5e1526074
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WASHINGTON (AP) — A group of lawyers with deep ties to the Republican Party scrambled over the weekend to rescue an effort to get independent presidential candidate Cornel West on the Arizona ballot, offering one of the clearest examples yet of the GOP’s extensive involvement in furthering the left-wing academic’s long-shot bid.

As a deadline loomed to submit the needed paperwork, two well-known Republican lawyers in the state and a GOP attorney working to get West on the ballot elsewhere learned that two of their would-be electors — Jerry Judie and Denisha Mitchell — were not interested in fulfilling the role. The electors’ decisions led to a barrage of text messages and phone calls looking to keep the operation alive. When those efforts failed, two Republican lawyers visited Judie’s and Mitchell’s homes, seemingly seeking to persuade them to reconsider.

This work appears to be part of a broader effort by conservative activists and Republican-aligned operatives across the country to push West’s candidacy and subvert the integrity of the ballot in the months leading up to November’s presidential election. Republicans are eager for West to be a spoiler in the 2024 presidential election by syphoning away voters who would probably support the Democratic nominee otherwise.

“I am officially no longer interested in being elector,” Judie, a 62-year-old retired park ranger for the city of Phoenix, said when an operative working to get West on the ballot texted him and asked if he could meet at a local hotel to sign another document.

Judie told The Associated Press he had been a fan of West since his 20s, drawn to his ideas and passion. He was excited earlier this year when he learned that West was running for president and pursued a chance to be an elector to the progressive’s campaign. Judie began to sour on that idea, however, when President Joe Biden ended his campaign last month, making way for Vice President Kamala Harris to be the Democratic nominee.

“When she was in the driver’s seat, that changed the game,” he said. “That changed everything for me, my family, and the people that I know. It was like magic.”

To qualify for the ballot, Arizona law requires independent presidential candidates to put forward a slate of electors who would cast Electoral College voters for them. After Judie informed the operative that he was no longer interested in representing West’s campaign, he received a series of phone calls, according to call records provided to the AP, from people working on the effort, along with a visit to his house by two Republican lawyers hoping to get West on the ballot.

“I am sorry ... we have been calling the crap out of you,” Paul Hamrick, an attorney who has been involved in getting West on the ballot in other states, said in a voicemail to Judie obtained by the AP. “The reason we have been trying to get in touch with you is we found out in the last 24 hours we have got to have everybody sign a letter that Dr. West has also signed.”

Hamrick then relayed that he knew Judie no longer wanted to be an elector. “Is there anything you can tell me about that or has anyone encouraged you not to be?” Hamrick asked.

Judie said two people came to his door looking to speak with him after he received the voicemail. He didn’t answer or talk to them — assuming they were looking to speak about West — but someone Judie knows spoke with them and they identified themselves as Amanda Reeve and Brett Johnson, two well-known lawyers from the law firm Snell & Wilmer.

Reeve is a former Republican state representative and Johnson is a member of the Republican National Lawyers Association. Reeve and Johnson’s firm has done extensive work for the Republican National Committee, GOP candidates and conservative groups, according to campaign finance disclosures.

Republicans and their allies have worked to get West on the ballot in Arizona, Wisconsin, Virginia, North Carolina, Nebraska, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Maine, all in the hope that West will help boost former President Donald Trump’s chances of winning later this year by pulling support from Harris. West does not need to win a state to serve as a spoiler candidate — a few thousand votes in battleground states could be decisive.

Reeve also called Mitchell after the AP reported Friday that she has signed an affidavit stating that she did not agree to be a West elector and never signed her name to a filing, alleging that the document that was filed in her name was forged.

“We need to get this information in as soon as possible,” Reeve said to Mitchell in a Friday voicemail in which she said her firm represented “the Cornel West campaign.”

“It’s due tomorrow morning,” Reeve stressed.

On Saturday, two people — one resembling Johnson and another Reeve — visited Mitchell’s home, according to footage from her doorbell camera obtained by the AP. The two rang the doorbell and left, not speaking with anyone in the home.

Neither Johnson nor Reeve responded to calls or emails requesting comment for this story.

Mitchell said after the AP story was published Friday — in which said she “didn’t even know what an elector was” and that the paperwork was “forged” and riddled with errors — she received a call from someone who had been handling the West petition work. She missed the call, but when she called back, she was connected to Hamrick.

Hamrick, an Alabama-based attorney, said the allegations against him were “false” when reached Sunday night, but declined to comment further.

Mitchell’s and Judie’s cases are the latest examples of the dubious tactics used to get West on ballots nationwide. The campaign did not respond to a request for comment Sunday.

Mitchell, who had been drawn to West’s progressive message before she learned Republican-aligned operatives were working to get him on the ballot, told the AP on Friday that she was unaware who filled out the paperwork in her name, calling it “forged.” She and her husband previously worked for a signature-gathering contractor called Wells Marketing, collecting signatures to get an initiative on the ballot that would raise the wages of tipped workers in Arizona.

Wells Marketing, a mysterious Missouri limited liability company, was also leading the effort to gather the signatures needed to get West on the ballot in Arizona.

The company is tied to Mark Jacoby — a brother-in-law of a Wells Marketing official, according to social media posts — who was listed on state documents as the employer of one signature gatherer working to get West on the ballot. Jacoby is a Republican-aligned operative with a reputation for using deceptive tactics. He was convicted in 2009 of voter registration fraud, according to court records.

Jacoby also worked in 2020 to gather signatures to place the rapper Ye, formerly known as Kanye West, on the presidential ballot. Democrats widely viewed the campaign as an effort to hurt President Joe Biden’s popularity with Black voters. Jacoby did not answer a call Friday at a number listed to him and his voicemail inbox was full.

Judie, reflecting on his chaotic last three days, said he was left with an uneasy feeling, especially because he still respects West.

“They had only one reason they were doing it,” Judie said. “Just to get him on the ballot so some votes would go to him and not go to other people.”

A spokesperson for Arizona Attorney General Kris Mayes, a Democrat, declined to comment Sunday. The Arizona secretary of state’s office did not respond to a request for comment. It is unclear whether West qualified for the ballot in Arizona.
 

hanimmal

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jfc Putins other puppet on some dickheads platform talking about how random (totally not fake right) online accounts are telling her they are going to register and vote for her stupid ass. So is this just her way to be like "Im totally radicalized into believing that online accounts are actually people" or just trying to create a atmosphere of it being ok to throw your vote for president away helping Orange Mussolini slip back into the power of the presidency.


Something meta about her being platformed by some dickheads who are suspect, which then is platformed by some other dickhead (who has sa lot of solid content even if I am not convinced yet by them not being a troll) and now here I am adding to the rabbit hole because it is infuriating watching the attack on our democracy playing out and the only time this shit gets brought up is when someone pushes the preemptive "RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA" troll like it makes it somehow ok for a foreign nation to fuck with our elections and politicians trying like hell to take advantage of the attack benefitting them.



But ah well, just got to work through the pain.

I don't really know anything about the podcast that was being used for Trump's bestie Jill Stein, figured it would be worth a quick look.


It is interesting that their views on YouTube get are just slightly higher than the amount as those weird pop up MSNBC videos that get replaced with sketchy coloring book ones have. How long before they get busted from being funded by Turkey or another Putin puppet?

Oh shit lol, looked at their 'oldest video'. lol the Hill. Yeah they are just more Putin puppets catfishing America as 'the left'.


Oh. Now that I see the Hill I think these may be the same dickheads that that Ryan McBeth Guy had talked about (was actually the first video of his I think I watched):


Hah looks like my bs vibes were maybe not such bullshit.

Now makes me think I should

Anyways. It has been pretty eye-opening the last few months I have been trolling YouTube and started listening to some of the different talking heads on it. Some have been putting out some very good conversations that is impressive how in depth they get. I never heard of "Destiny" before and got to say it is really a giant relief that I now see the new generation has been rising to the occasion of fighting the war we have all been in for the last couple decades without most of us realizing it.


Was thinking the Econ thread would be a good place for this, but the fact that Trump's project 2025 has stuff in it to do the dirty work of foreign dictators is pretty fitting with their other puppets trying to help him get into office.

https://apnews.com/article/treasury-imf-world-bank-international-finance-43c9a0f3818996fa4e8c8164c5f319d8
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WASHINGTON (AP) — Withdrawing the United States from the IMF and World Bank would be “a step backward,” a top U.S. Treasury official said Friday, defending the organizations before a presidential election that could cast uncertainty about America’s future in them.

In advance of the institutions’ annual meetings this month, Jay Shambaugh, the undersecretary for international affairs, alluded to a Project 2025 proposal for the U.S. to pull out of the IMF and World Bank if Donald Trump wins.

The proposal is part of a plan created by the Heritage Foundation as a possible handbook for the next Republican administration, though Trump has said it is not related to his campaign and he is not bound to its ideas.

“There are those who have suggested the U.S. withdraw from these institutions; this would be a step backward for our economic security,” Shambaugh said in a speech at the Atlantic Council. Without U.S. leadership, “we would have less influence and we would weaken these institutions. We cannot afford that.”

Often lenders of last resort, the International Monetary Fund and World Bank use billions in loans and assistance to buoy struggling economies and encourage countries operating in deficit to implement reforms they say promote stability and growth.

Asked more directly about the Project 2025 plan in a question and answer session, Shambaugh was measured in his response, noting that the Hatch Act restricts partisan political activity by federal employees. But he said that over many decades there have been proposals to withdraw from the institutions by people who say the U.S. would be better off without them. “I would just say I think the evidence suggests that’s entirely inaccurate,” he said.

Within the more than 1,000-page Project 2025, the authors propose that the Treasury Department “withdraw from both the World Bank and the IMF and terminate its financial contribution to both institutions,” because they “simply create expensive middle-men, while U.S. funds are intercepted before being distributed to those in need.”

Vice President Kamala Harris and Democratic allies have turned Project 2025 into one of their most consistent tools against Trump. He has denied knowing about Heritage’s conservative roadmap, even though dozens of his allies and former aides helped to draft the presidential transition plan.

Danielle Alvarez, a Trump campaign senior adviser, said “only President Trump and the campaign, and NOT any other organization or former staff, represent policies for the second term.”

She said the 20 promises listed on his campaign website “are the only policies endorsed by President Trump for a second term,.” The campaign did not answer when asked if he would encourage the U.S. to withdraw from the financial institutions.

The IMF and World Bank annual meetings will be held in Washington this month.



I am really hoping we get to listen to coherent non-hateful conversations for the next four years out of the White House.
 
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