This is racist?

Hey everyone,

Here's a more or less, general question. Why do people always demonize far-right parties? Why are they called "nazi" or "fascist" parties by the mass media?

I'm referring specifically to the BNP. For those not familiar, I'm talking about the British National Party which causes a lot of controversy in the UK for it's strong anti-immigration views.

It recently had it's constitution changed (by legal force) because non-whites were not allowed to join.

If that can be dubbed as racist, how come political, social, religious and sports organisations for blacks-only can exist, without being called racist and legally challenged?

Also, how can it be racist for a people to insist that its ethnicity and religion remain the dominant one in its own country?

What are your views on this - and please, no flame wars.

Toke away...

-Rich

RichiRich said:

Hey everyone,

Here's a more or less, general question. Why do people always demonize far-right parties? Why are they called "nazi" or "fascist" parties by the mass media?

I'm referring specifically to the BNP. For those not familiar, I'm talking about the British National Party which causes a lot of controversy in the UK for it's strong anti-immigration views.

It recently had it's constitution changed (by legal force) because non-whites were not allowed to join.

If that can be dubbed as racist, how come political, social, religious and sports organisations for blacks-only can exist, without being called racist and legally challenged?

Also, how can it be racist for a people to insist that its ethnicity and religion remain the dominant one in its own country?

What are your views on this - and please, no flame wars.

Toke away...

-Rich

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We had a pretty heated thread that dealt with race about a month ago. Good luck on keeping a flame war from igniting.

Yeah I see what you mean. Unfortunately thats the way this country has got to now. thats why first chance I get im fucking off to spain or Italy
I think the media focus on the really extremists that sort of go around causing riots etc. I have no strong views eithier way but I do believe immagration laws should be alot stricter and of course to legalise Cannabis

Peace & Love

RichiRich said:

Hey everyone,

Here's a more or less, general question. Why do people always demonize far-right parties? Why are they called "nazi" or "fascist" parties by the mass media?

I'm referring specifically to the BNP. For those not familiar, I'm talking about the British National Party which causes a lot of controversy in the UK for it's strong anti-immigration views.

It recently had it's constitution changed (by legal force) because non-whites were not allowed to join.

If that can be dubbed as racist, how come political, social, religious and sports organisations for blacks-only can exist, without being called racist and legally challenged?

Also, how can it be racist for a people to insist that its ethnicity and religion remain the dominant one in its own country?

What are your views on this - and please, no flame wars.

Toke away...

-Rich

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Ive always wondered how come we can have BET and we cant have WET, I dont understand

This is all so pre Obama. Don't you know we are post-race now? Nothing is racist anymore. We have put all that behind us.

In all fairness this is based around the UK

i get really pissed off when poeople go out running their mouths about the BNP simply ebing a bunch of racists/nazi's/racists.

certainly some of their policies are flawed, i mean you can't just chuck kids born in the UK outta the UK, but that's not to say immigration isn't a problem. it is a moooohassive problem. yet no other party will even look at immigration and the policies because they (i guess) assume that they will immediately be branded as bad guys as well.

anyone in the UK that thinks they offer no valid points or arguments is very very very naive.

RichiRich said:

If that can be dubbed as racist, how come political, social, religious and sports organisations for blacks-only can exist, without being called racist and legally challenged?

Also, how can it be racist for a people to insist that its ethnicity and religion remain the dominant one in its own country?

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I know this answer won't be embraced by many in here, but the simple and honest answer to your questions is that you aren't going to find any credible rationale for those disparities. What you are searching for, from the Progressives in all our societies that brought us to this point, is an explanation based on a foundation of common sense that would pass the smell test of the average person.

It doesn't exist, ethnic pride from anyone but a minority is frowned upon if not publicly castigated. Is it fair, does it seem to be based in common sense? In my opinion it does not. Political Correctness as dictated by hardcore Progressives and spoon fed in tolerable doses to the masses, rarely does. But, you shouldn't be surprised by where we find ourselves as societies, the people and organizations that have been successfully pushing this agenda/philosophy have had no qualms about publicly and loudly stating this as their goal.

Illegal Smile said:

This is all so pre Obama. Don't you know we are post-race now? Nothing is racist anymore. We have put all that behind us.

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O rly? So Obama is now a milestone in human moral code?

Obama and the rest of his administration can suck my dick while I'm puking. They put a black face on the same agenda and call it "change".

Well the I way see it, young men are still dying in Afghanistan after he promised "change" so fuck him. Any president or pime minister who sends his own countrymen to a war that was not democractically approved by the people, and is of no greedy-less interest, is a cunt and should be hanged. After WW2, no war is justified.

Back to our topic... I think the mass media in any country, always need at least one politcal party to hate, so they always chose the far right and brand it racist - It's great way to control the sheep.

-Rich

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seQsqfwd0ts <-- the answer

MuyLocoNC said:

I know this answer won't be embraced by many in here, but the simple and honest answer to your questions is that you aren't going to find any credible rationale for those disparities. What you are searching for, from the Progressives in all our societies that brought us to this point, is an explanation based on a foundation of common sense that would pass the smell test of the average person.

It doesn't exist, ethnic pride from anyone but a minority is frowned upon if not publicly castigated. Is it fair, does it seem to be based in common sense? In my opinion it does not. Political Correctness as dictated by hardcore Progressives and spoon fed in tolerable doses to the masses, rarely does. But, you shouldn't be surprised by where we find ourselves as societies, the people and organizations that have been successfully pushing this agenda/philosophy have had no qualms about publicly and loudly stating this as their goal.

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This and the entire race-based preference doctrine is, as I see it, part of an abstract reparations. Affirmative Action right down to Barack Obama. As Sandra OConnor put it, we need another 25 years of it. But I think the first black president ate up a large chunk of that already. Post Obama it will be very hard to make the race based preference case, after all even though he failed miserably, we elected the first black president.

jesus of Cannabis said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seQsqfwd0ts <-- the answer

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lol, never heard of it but it seems like a funny movie.

Illegal Smile said:

This and the entire race-based preference doctrine is, as I see it, part of an abstract reparations. Affirmative Action right down to Barack Obama. As Sandra OConnor put it, we need another 25 years of it. But I think the first black president ate up a large chunk of that already. Post Obama it will be very hard to make the race based preference case, after all even though he failed miserably, we elected the first black president.

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Obama is not black, he's a half breed.

-Rich

the world is fucked, thats all. its not worth judging someone based on their ethical standpoints, religion, gender, just as much as its not worth judging someone by their skin color. trying to be politically correct is a waste of time; dont wory if you offend people, just be fuckin honest! i hate how people are always pussyfooting around issues for fear of hurting someones feelings or infringing on their rights

KaleoXxX said:

the world is fucked, thats all. its not worth judging someone based on their ethical standpoints, religion, gender, just as much as its not worth judging someone by their skin color. trying to be politically correct is a waste of time; dont wory if you offend people, just be fuckin honest! i hate how people are always pussyfooting around issues for fear of hurting someones feelings or infringing on their rights

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i concur

every time anybody gets their knickers in a twist about 'racism' they feed the problem.
if everyone ACTUALLY regarded everyone else as basically equal (like if colour, nationality, all that stuff you don't choose but you're born with etc genuinely wasn't a factor) then nobody would care about the difference. we have women/men only stuff and nobody seems to care about that, despite a huge gender equality movement from the 1950s on.

there are plenty of idiots on all sides who think their race is better, and that members of their race are automatically worth more as people than other races. imo, that is either ignorant, incredibly stupid, or just offensive.

being a black guy who thinks all white guys are out to get him is no different to being a white guy who thinks all arabs & muslims are out to get him, which is also the same as being an arab who thinks all jews are out to get them...which isn't hugely different from being a chinese guy who actually is out to get all hispanics.

i do believe that every human being has very slight natural tendencies towards... let's call it 'cautiousness' when confronted with something very different to what they're used to. but in this type of case our education should absolutely over-rule our instinct.

richi, i too have no idea why it's ok to have certain-race-only team/clubs etc for some races but not for others. there's certainly a stigma attached to whites that they're more racist/likely to be racially motivated, which i assume is based on our track record. globally, and throughout history, white people have not been the most tolerant. but that doesn't mean that any given whitey can't be just as tolerant as the black guy sitting next to him nowadays.

all that said, the BNP disgusts me. i am plenty aware of their real life policies and don't accuse them of being nazis or any of the rest of it, but i disagree quite profoundly with their attitudes, and am thoroughly disconcerted by the not-so-long-ago exploits of their key members.

the scottish & english defence leagues, they really are like fascists and the bnp has close ties to them - whether intentional or not, most sdl/edl members are going to be voting BNP in may.

Nick Griffin, while quite a smart guy and a reasonably talented politician, is a total fanny in my eyes and i think the world would be a better place for him getting hit by a truck.

anyway sorry for the abso essay but this is an interesting thread, not enough UK politics on here and certainly not enough informed commentary when there is!

sancho said:

Ive always wondered how come we can have BET and we cant have WET, I dont understand

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Its called CMT

natrone23 said:

Its called CMT

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What is CMT? lol

-Rich

RichiRich said:

What is CMT? lol

-Rich

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country station

Illegal Smile said:

This and the entire race-based preference doctrine is, as I see it, part of an abstract reparations. Affirmative Action right down to Barack Obama. As Sandra OConnor put it, we need another 25 years of it. But I think the first black president ate up a large chunk of that already. Post Obama it will be very hard to make the race based preference case, after all even though he failed miserably, we elected the first black president.

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WE the people didn't elect him, the billionaire elitists chose him
to carry out the plans for the NWO.

That's why after he "promised" to bring troops home, he sent out more

I highly regret voting for the corrupt bastard, but none of us had a choice.
This country is owned by central banks, large corporations, and media.

I drank the kool-aid just like most of Americans, but now I'm awake
and I can see through so much of the bullshit.

Sorry I went on a rant there, buts its true. We the people, didn't
TRULY elect him, the elitists did.

Here in the States we have a private organization called the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP). What would happen if one wanted to start an organization called the National Association for the Advancement of White People?

In our Congress, we have the Black Caucus. How about a White Caucus as well?

We have hate crime laws based upon race ... but only White people ever commit those crimes.


We also have an immense ILLEGAL immigrant problem. Anyone who supports ending this problem is deemed to be a racist.

Is progressivism a mental illness?

purplekitty7772008 said:

WE the people didn't elect him, the billionaire elitists chose him
to carry out the plans for the NWO.

That's why after he "promised" to bring troops home, he sent out more

I highly regret voting for the corrupt bastard, but none of us had a choice.
This country is owned by central banks, large corporations, and media.

I drank the kool-aid just like most of Americans, but now I'm awake
and I can see through so much of the bullshit.

Sorry I went on a rant there, buts its true. We the people, didn't
TRULY elect him, the elitists did.

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Exactly - I didn't want to blurt it out that way because I thought I was the only one haha

Obama is another puppet and no matter what you tell the sheep they will always believe that Obama is some kind of messiah or saviour. Fucking idiots...

-Rich