Thoughts on Multiple cuttings of the same plant in the same pot?

I'm thinking of trying this. I have a few 15 gallon pots and I was thinking of transplanting 4 plants cloned from the same mother into the same pot.

Does anyone know if they will cooperate or compete? With they act as one plant or 4 separate plants competing for root zone. Will their roots strangle one another?

Is rather not waste my time if it will be unsuccessful.

You can put multiple plants in one pot, but why? RM3 has done it and posted pics on here, just browse a bit.

HighCaliberCannabis said:

I'm thinking of trying this. I have a few 15 gallon pots and I was thinking of transplanting 4 plants cloned from the same mother into the same pot.

Does anyone know if they will cooperate or compete? With they act as one plant or 4 separate plants competing for root zone. Will their roots strangle one another?

Is rather not waste my time if it will be unsuccessful.

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You can plant them separately but as close together as possible in the same pot. Then you can bend them toward each other so that the stems touch for about 1 to 1.5 inch long at the bend section, as long as they are tall enough to do that with-ought over bending (some foliage around the area will need to be removed). At this section you graft them together, although would be tricky with 4 stems. While the graft takes keep it well supported and then start to gently lst each plant toward it's own corner or section of the container to fill into it's own canopy area but take care not to over stress graft section, lst may be too strong a word in this, it's just directing the plants/tops away from each other is all. A lot of care is needed to not pull them over too much at any given time especially after the graft support is removed (should be into position by then anyway). Support the graft again during any more pulling if it is required and support the days following so the graft won't break. Later you can add stakes on outer edge of pot for each individual branch and gently tie them to that, it will basically be like a walking stick to support each branch and not let them drop down in flower weight and stress the graft.

If plants have bigger root balls (say 1L+) a greater space will be between the stems initially so you will lose more of the inside lower foliage to get the graft point. On other hand, smaller plants may be too fragile to it or stems not wide enough to make a safe graft.

You can take cuttings from the very start and put them in the same jiffy/cube or what ever you use. You can place a small ball or what ever works toward the base of stems (just above the cube for example) to somewhat separate the upper stems/leaves as they root. Once they root plant into 1L or w/e pot and either use the ball thing again to create some space at the stems>leaves or gently tie them toward the desired directions.

Grafting or rooting with 4 is, well, Frankenstein shit, the possible pay off is to take weeks off of veg time with ub4, mainlining maybe even scrog. Basically because the graft in theory should be far less stunting than the initial topping and/or heavy lst of those techniques and you could have 3x the root growth rate. Doing it with two is easy but four would seem to be where it's at in terms of filling out canopy in a manner that could satisfy with no extra training/topping.

Or it's all complete bs and I should go sleep?.

I wouldn't waste my time.

I'm curious about whether or not the plants will compete with one another. I am not looking for opinions on the practicality of it lol.

Do they grow as a single organism or do they compete as individual plants? That's my question.

I was reading about Quaking Aspens and how a grove of them is actually one tree that spread out through runners. Making it one of the largest life forms on earth. And I wondered if cannabis would act in the same way.

they are each separate plants, they'll compete and some will either die or thrive.

Ive planted 4 plants in a single fabric pot, but didnt make them fight, I simply used plastic place mats(from dollar store), cut into correct sized width/height to slide down the walls of the pot to turn it into 4 even pie pieces. Fill each of the holes with dirt and plant in each one and the roots wont ever see eachother.

I did this because I was out of pots, but I also used fabric pots which I think is essential always really bu especially when giving the plant limited room to root. I personally used a 7gallon fabric pot when I split into 4 sections, so each plant still had atleast 1.5gallons and root space, and in a fabric pot the will fill the entire space you give them and not get root boundlike a plastic container

HighCaliberCannabis said:

I'm curious about whether or not the plants will compete with one another. I am not looking for opinions on the practicality of it lol.

Do they grow as a single organism or do they compete as individual plants? That's my question.

I was reading about Quaking Aspens and how a grove of them is actually one tree that spread out through runners. Making it one of the largest life forms on earth. And I wondered if cannabis would act in the same way.

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It seems if grafted yes. If not each plant will grow at it's own rate and the dominant fastest developing one will take more of the pot, resulting in stem size difference (theory). The roots will treat each other like soil or the edge of a pot, will push out the way if can or change direction if not. If they are similar size cuts of the same mother maybe they are expected to match each other in growth rate so the difference may not be noticeable so long as they all experience same grow conditions (even in same pot it easily differs depending on light source etc).

When grafted the stem sizes in limited tests stayed the same, maybe the root mass of one is bigger than other but they are joined at stem so either work together or one plant asserts dominance over both and act as one. Or maybe complete coincidence.

Maybe do more research in a different field where grafting is more popular. Could dispel any miss truths above.

This site preaches that each plant needs it's own pot. I've learned some strains do better with 3 per pot. I think sativas really benefit from it, indicas probably don't. I'm pretty sure I've put like 7 into one 15 gal before, didn't notice any problems at all and they always do better than the same strain planted by itself.

Flowki said:

It seems if grafted yes. If not each plant will grow at it's own rate and the dominant fastest developing one will take more of the pot, resulting in stem size difference (theory). The roots will treat each other like soil or the edge of a pot, will push out the way if can or change direction if not. If they are similar size cuts of the same mother maybe they are expected to match each other in growth rate so the difference may not be noticeable so long as they all experience same grow conditions (even in same pot it easily differs depending on light source etc).

When grafted the stem sizes in limited tests stayed the same, maybe the root mass of one is bigger than other but they are joined at stem so either work together or one plant asserts dominance over both and act as one. Or maybe complete coincidence.

Maybe do more research in a different field where grafting is more popular. Could dispel any miss truths above.

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Thank you firstly for understanding what I was asking and also for your thoughtful answer. That makes perfect sense

HighCaliberCannabis said:

Thank you firstly for understanding what I was asking and also for your thoughtful answer. That makes perfect sense

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It's far from concrete info but better than nothing. What would seem dangerous is transplanting the 4 main root masses too close to the sides of the pot as it will dry out faster and perhaps not end well. Even if you don't graft them it would seem better to plant all four in a more central location on the 15 gal and then gently lean tops outward toward their own canopy space. If one plant did fall behind and have a smaller root mass over the others, at-least it will be near the middle soil mass where moisture will be held longer. Maybe it's not a big deal regardless.

They'll grow fine. As clones from the same mother they should all grow exactly the same if everything else is the same for each. Even different strains will each grow as it's own genes dictate.

It's not rocket science folks.