Thoughts on the new DOJ standing on rec use

Mr John

Active Member
Saying they will allow recreational use and not pursue given some rules are enforced by the state? Will this affect us medicinal users?
 

PurpleBuz

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Saying they will allow recreational use and not pursue given some rules are enforced by the state? Will this affect us medicinal users?
I think It means mostly that the feds won't sue the state, other than that not much else changes. DEA will keep on doing what they are doing, busting who they think needs busting. All they have to do is claim the dispensaries were black market dealers, that the state did nothing about and they will do whatever they want.

What I wonder is if DEA will leave state permitted grow operations with large plant counts alone ?
 

Mr John

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Yea wondering also about the larger grows. Thought I read that the DOJ could still go after the larger ones, seems they should be left alone as long as they are regulated and such.. who knows, it does seem to be heading to a better direction as the feds are willing to let the states pursue it. You can be they are watching for any mistakes and will probably be there when one does happen
 

Jar Man

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What I heard in a TV news report was that the aim was to have it sold at certain established retail outlets along with alcohol under strict control where the state could better enforce tax collection. They seek to squeeze out retail outlets that cater to cannabis only and sever long standing black market ties and the perceived irresponsible cultural mindset marijuana is associated with.

Otherwise the law is still so vague no one can really feel they're law abiding by following the so called rules. When it suits them, as far as law enforcement is concerned it's still illegal under the Fed, so they can do whatever they want anyway. The old war on drugs stigma holds and those still against it refuse to act in a way that's perceived as giving in and losing the war.
 

Jar Man

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Ultimately where this is all going winds up stripping away any potential for the average Joe making a disproportionately fat profit margin potential and floating a comfy lifestyle out of a home basement grow alone. If volume relative to price structure comes in line with the typical capitalist model, the powers that be will be good with it. No conspiracy, many simply don't grasp the insistent slavery involved in a capitalist system, despite how educated and talented or qualified one is for a pay raise. No, that doesn't by default mean I'm a Socialist.
 

PurpleBuz

Well-Known Member
Will this affect us medicinal users?
Reflecting more on news feedback and after listening to some of the public forums, its become increasingly clear that if we Medical patients don't stand up wherever we can that the state will attempt to squeeze and regulate medical marijuana into the 502 square hole. The Feds will be on the states back every step of the way to regulate the medical community OR they will step in. Local officials and politicians are already talking about the unregulated MMJ community.

Medicine should not be taxed and we should not be denied the right to grow our own medicine or help others that cannot grow.
 

Mr John

Active Member
Medicine should not be taxed and we should not be denied the right to grow our own medicine or help others that cannot grow.

Well said.
 

colonuggs

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Medicine should not be taxed and we should not be denied the right to grow our own medicine or help others that cannot grow.

Well said.
But medicine is taxed.... they tax asprin, cold tablets ect... why not medical marijuana if you have to purchase it...

you should be allowed to grow your own if you choose too...tax free :)

MJ is legal for the over 21 crowd...they tax it

If you try to say no you cant tax it cause its medical.....they may try to put MMJ in pharmacies where you get your prescription drugs
 

PurpleBuz

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But medicine is taxed.... they tax asprin, cold tablets ect... why not medical marijuana if you have to purchase it...
Just because over the counter meds in this state are taxed does not mean its right. Did you know that in somes states there isn't even sales tax on food and medicine ? Taxing basic human needs is immoral and unethical. Whether it be aspirin or prescrip drug The state is taking money from people because they have ailments.
THATS just plain WRONG


If you try to say no you cant tax it cause its medical.....they may try to put MMJ in pharmacies where you get your prescription drugs
Well they are trying to do a lot worse than that right now. Did you view the video ? Did you listen to what Hurst said ? The "prescription thing" won't fly anyhow until the feds reschedule Cannabis.

I could see a very small tax like 1% provided that it goes into a fund dedicated to Cannabis Medical Research, BUT not into the general fund.
 

Mr John

Active Member
But medicine is taxed.... they tax asprin, cold tablets ect... why not medical marijuana if you have to purchase it...

you should be allowed to grow your own if you choose too...tax free :)

MJ is legal for the over 21 crowd...they tax it

If you try to say no you cant tax it cause its medical.....they may try to put MMJ in pharmacies where you get your prescription drugs
Hmmm Good point there. Yes medicine is taxed, as is most everything under the sun. And lets not be fooled why WA really wants it legal is to be able to tax it and make money of off it
in the first place. It will probably get taxed along the same rates as alcohol and tobacco. Hope I did not make a mistake by voting yes on 502. I was thinking on the whole it is good
for MJ to be legal but never thought of it hurting me because I am a card holder.
 

colonuggs

Well-Known Member
Just because over the counter meds in this state are taxed does not mean its right. Did you know that in somes states there isn't even sales tax on food and medicine ?




.

ya Washington is one of those states.... no tax on foods

And depending on the drug.... its not taxed when prescribed.

Non script meds are usually all taxed
 
Ultimately where this is all going winds up stripping away any potential for the average Joe making a disproportionately fat profit margin potential and floating a comfy lifestyle out of a home basement grow alone. If volume relative to price structure comes in line with the typical capitalist model, the powers that be will be good with it. No conspiracy, many simply don't grasp the insistent slavery involved in a capitalist system, despite how educated and talented or qualified one is for a pay raise. No, that doesn't by default mean I'm a Socialist.
so what about capitalism enslaves us??? and please enlighten me what better model is out there where anyone from any class can achieve what people have in America?? I don't see people fleeing to other countries like they do to America. Every system has it's faults but in my opinion and from a history perspective it's the best thing going.
 
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