Three a Light???

pop22

Well-Known Member
And I want to know how good is that bud? More doesn't equal good....

I just want to know how long it takes to get 3 pounds per light. Does it take all year, it looks his plants are supercroped to much so he has to take leafs off to prevent mold. I think I can do the same thing without taking leafs off in less time. I meet these guys and they can't answer these questions. I even asked them what type of light and they said doesn't matter. I was like wtf so a 400w bull crap. Anyways assuming 1000w it takes a long time to grow a plant, take all the leafs off, grow again and again. I have done this and I makes some sort of sense but a lot of work.
I would be happier with 1 pound every 3 months vs. 3 pounds every 9 months risking pests and theft
 

hot cheetos

Active Member
Also, I'd like to add to this debate about defoliating/not defoliating. 2 grows ago I did light defoliation. My last grow, I pulled almost zero leaves. I noticed that ALL the buds that were covered by leaves stayed small and lime green and essentially unripe. I thought that if a leaf receives the light, it will send the energy and growth to the buds. I witnessed that to not be the case AT ALL. For the buds to get bigger, the BUDS had to have DIRECT light on them. Not the leaves. So if all those leaves that were blocking the buds were trimmed off, the buds would have ripening up and grew in size and maturity/THC concentration, and theoretically...yield. What do the leaves do if they don't send all the energy to the most important part of the plant, the flowers themselves.

I thought the leaves were like solar panels that take in energy and send it to the flowers. But if a bud is not receiving light it does NOT grow. So what the fuck is the purpose of these fucking leaves if they dont help the flowers?!

I don't know which is better, but i witnessed first hand that buds dont grow without sunlight no matter if all your leaves are getting light. Light on the leaves does not make buds grow.

At the same time, I don't doubt that pulling leaves stunts growth. So I'm on the fence about this and unsure of which way to lean. Any yet, all these people trying to prove with science that pulling the leaves will hurt yield, and you have these guys put up a timelapse video of completely defoliated plants getting FAT colas. Wheres the conspiracy?
 

nurrgle

Well-Known Member
I tried it out on a plant last run and had mixed results.

Just helped a friend take down a 12 light gravita room that blew me away though. He bought the book when we were discussing it and followed everything except the nuts. He ran his own strange mix.

As mentioned above, the extra weight came from leaving all the bud sites on the plant. There were golf balls all the way to the dirt.
 

TimeToBurn

Well-Known Member
Also, I'd like to add to this debate about defoliating/not defoliating. 2 grows ago I did light defoliation. My last grow, I pulled almost zero leaves. I noticed that ALL the buds that were covered by leaves stayed small and lime green and essentially unripe. I thought that if a leaf receives the light, it will send the energy and growth to the buds. I witnessed that to not be the case AT ALL. For the buds to get bigger, the BUDS had to have DIRECT light on them. Not the leaves. So if all those leaves that were blocking the buds were trimmed off, the buds would have ripening up and grew in size and maturity/THC concentration, and theoretically...yield. What do the leaves do if they don't send all the energy to the most important part of the plant, the flowers themselves.

I thought the leaves were like solar panels that take in energy and send it to the flowers. But if a bud is not receiving light it does NOT grow. So what the fuck is the purpose of these fucking leaves if they dont help the flowers?!

I don't know which is better, but i witnessed first hand that buds dont grow without sunlight no matter if all your leaves are getting light. Light on the leaves does not make buds grow.

At the same time, I don't doubt that pulling leaves stunts growth. So I'm on the fence about this and unsure of which way to lean. Any yet, all these people trying to prove with science that pulling the leaves will hurt yield, and you have these guys put up a timelapse video of completely defoliated plants getting FAT colas. Wheres the conspiracy?
That's pretty much been my experience also except when I did the extreme defoliation I got small colas and minimal side branching. My best compromise is letting the plant grow with minimal or no defoliation while bud sites and side branches are growing, then do selective defoliation of big leaves to allow enough light into the plant and the lower buds develop and get hard.
 

Heber

Member
Yes,
Saw this article on this and was a defiant has anybody read this book??? For $500 they asking for a pretty hefty price but mainly was wanting to know has anyone tried the defoil technique that is used where on the first day of flower all fans are striped. Then on 21 day of flower all fans are striped again. They call it schawazze or something like that lol but just wanting to know has anybody tried this before and got good results? Will be trying on some plants just cus I want to see if this is true.
I have . Yield is improved, haven't seen much difference in potency
 
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