Three a Light???

reallybigjesusfreak

reallybigjesusfreak

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BigHornBuds said:
In veg it’s MC, kelp, cal/mg , and some times mg . 2-3 times I’ll give them enzymes
Flowering , during stretching, mc , kelp, sweet, n some times mg.
After stretching, I add boost, n cut kelp, enzymes once a week.
I come to a peak, then tapper ppms down to nothing,

I like using the others, so I can start lowering the N in flower, n the sweets n boost seem to help fatten the buds .
If I use straight MC , my leafs are to dark green in late flower for my liking . View attachment 4332515View attachment 4332517
Just a random branch for last chop.


There’s a lot of things in this world, that are rebranded to take advantage of the uneducated.
Here’s an example, IMO (others too)the best bearing come from Italy. If I go to a bearing shop , I can buy every top end bearing, n seal for my bike motor, where if I went to a KTM dealer , it would cost me over 10x more . The bearing would be in a pretty pack with kTM all over it, but when you open it , we’d have the same bearing.
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awesome, thanks. Looks like it will cost me about 30 bucks to try all of that in my next run, im gonna give it a go.
 
BigHornBuds

BigHornBuds

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TreeFarmerCharlie

TreeFarmerCharlie

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Bigdaddy76 said:
Does anyone have the PDF that they’d be willing to share?
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Why? This dude is a scam artist and people make fun of him still today. His method can be summed down to this....Defoliate the ever loving shit out of your plants and feed them a ton of his "special" nutrient line to make up for the lack of photosynthesis you caused by removing every fan leaf.
 
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duckweed

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I got a couple of emails from the "Scwazze" company lately, they have "1/2 price" sales occasionally (fathers day & 4th of July so far). Which means the book costs $150 if you time it right. If, after reading ALL of these posts, you still want to buy the book and are a believer, that's still an expensive book but is much more affordable.

But, I would say that you would probably be served just as well by experimenting and reading these forums. I just started and have terribly messed up these poor plants, but that's on my ignorance and false pride, not something a picture book is going to help.

Also, as has been pointed out before, on Page 8 of this thread there are numerous pics from the book. Simply seeing the pics should let you know how information-dense the book is. That should give you pause about dropping $150 on it. There are A LOT of cheaper and more information-dense sources online now.
 
thenasty1

thenasty1

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let me save you all some loot. i present to you the "about 3 pounds method"
-good genetics
-appropriate veg time
-de lights (quality white led also acceptable)
-co2 supplementation
-appropriate nutrient regimen
-appropriate climate/environment
-train plants to maximize canopy space (bend, weave, top, whatever. im not a fan of defol but if it works for you go for it) and/or employ side lighting
*hydro is what does it for me. soilless medium does it for others. im sure it can be done with organics too, but i havent done it myself
what is appropriate nute regimen, climate, etc? that info is readily available on this forum and many others. damn near everything you could need to know is on the internet for free. learn to spot bullshit (hint: when the author/site/whatever is trying to sell you something, the info in question cannot be corroborated, etc) and remember to think twice the next time someone tries to sell you a book about growing plants for several hundred dollars- they probably got whatever info they have from the same forums that we all have access to
 
Stltoed

Stltoed

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thenasty1 said:
let me save you all some loot. i present to you the "about 3 pounds method"
-good genetics
-appropriate veg time
-de lights (quality white led also acceptable)
-co2 supplementation
-appropriate nutrient regimen
-appropriate climate/environment
-train plants to maximize canopy space (bend, weave, top, whatever. im not a fan of defol but if it works for you go for it) and/or employ side lighting
*hydro is what does it for me. soilless medium does it for others. im sure it can be done with organics too, but i havent done it myself
what is appropriate nute regimen, climate, etc? that info is readily available on this forum and many others. damn near everything you could need to know is on the internet for free. learn to spot bullshit (hint: when the author/site/whatever is trying to sell you something, the info in question cannot be corroborated, etc) and remember to think twice the next time someone tries to sell you a book about growing plants for several hundred dollars- they probably got whatever info they have from the same forums that we all have access to
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Perfect...
Amen to hydro, and as a sub set to appropriate nutrients... use Silica
 
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GreenthumbUPMI

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HempletonState said:
From from I have heard about this book from a jackass in my hydro store who actually bought it, was that the only different thing the book teaches besides normal hydro techniques is that the author removes all of the fan leaves twice in flower I believe he said the first and fourth weeks of flower absolutely every fan leaf and that apparently is all you need to do to get 3 a light. I call bullshit, because the number one factor is the genetics and strain which apparently he doesn't talk about at all as a factor. Just another person taking advantage of lazy jackasses who think it's as simple as reading a book and watering some plants
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It's NOT that simple? Uh oh...
 
Bigdaddy76

Bigdaddy76

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TreeFarmerCharlie said:
Why? This dude is a scam artist and people make fun of him still today. His method can be summed down to this....Defoliate the ever loving shit out of your plants and feed them a ton of his "special" nutrient line to make up for the lack of photosynthesis you caused by removing every fan leaf.
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I’d say don’t knock it until you try it cause it actually works! Otherwise your opinion, is just that, an opinion based in ZERO facts making you look ignorant! Maybe actually give it a try and see if you still feel the same way!!
 
Bigdaddy76

Bigdaddy76

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I’d say unless you’ve actually tried it (doing it properly) your opinion means absolutely nothing and is pure shit! If done properly it’ll increase yield big time! Seems like people are so wrapped up and butthurt over the books price, they can’t take the knowledge seriously! To each their own, but I like optimizing my yields!
 
Doug Dawson

Doug Dawson

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Bigdaddy76 said:
I’d say unless you’ve actually tried it (doing it properly) your opinion means absolutely nothing and is pure shit! If done properly it’ll increase yield big time! Seems like people are so wrapped up and butthurt over the books price, they can’t take the knowledge seriously! To each their own, but I like optimizing my yields!
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A book about destroying the parts of a plant that is uses for it's life process seems pretty ridiculous to me. The whole concept of it seems wrong and the price is a total joke. That said I cannot say it doesn't work but I won't be taking the chance on such a thing. I also wont go pulling parts of the motor out of my truck to make it run better but that's just me. In the end it is all up to each person if they want to spend that kind of money and take the advice in the book.
 
Bigdaddy76

Bigdaddy76

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Doug Dawson said:
A book about destroying the parts of a plant that is uses for it's life process seems pretty ridiculous to me. The whole concept of it seems wrong and the price is a total joke. That said I cannot say it doesn't work but I won't be taking the chance on such a thing. I also wont go pulling parts of the motor out of my truck to make it run better but that's just me. In the end it is all up to each person if they want to spend that kind of money and take the advice in the book.
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I’m not saying you should go out and buy the book if you can get the important info for free. However, last time I checked, we’re all growing bud, not fan leaves! Removing fan leaves gets all the bud sites more light, which is what they need to grow large! Not all stress on plants is bad. Some actually stimulates the growth we’re looking for. I’m telling you from actual experience, that if done properly it’ll definitely increase yields. You obviously can’t claim you’ll get three a light, doing this cause that’s still strain dependent, not all lights are created equal and some people just suck at growing! I can guarantee you, if you tried it, your yield would increase, as long as every other aspect of your grow is on point! ! It also helps to start adding silica, starting the end of veg.
 
norcalreppin77

norcalreppin77

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More to it then just stripping all the leaves. Its how they top them as well. Longer veg times, 5 toppings before they put the plants into flower. Last few topping they are cutting off 10 tops at a time. The plants look like beach balls before they flip them.
 
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Doug Dawson

Doug Dawson

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Bigdaddy76 said:
I’m not saying you should go out and buy the book if you can get the important info for free. However, last time I checked, we’re all growing bud, not fan leaves! Removing fan leaves gets all the bud sites more light, which is what they need to grow large! Not all stress on plants is bad. Some actually stimulates the growth we’re looking for. I’m telling you from actual experience, that if done properly it’ll definitely increase yields. You obviously can’t claim you’ll get three a light, doing this cause that’s still strain dependent, not all lights are created equal and some people just suck at growing! I can guarantee you, if you tried it, your yield would increase, as long as every other aspect of your grow is on point! ! It also helps to start adding silica, starting the end of veg.
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Fair enough, as I said I cannot say one way or another from personal experience if it will work or not. Logically it does not make sense to me. Some defoliation does but totally stripping them seems counter productive. The main job of a leaf is to make food for a plant. Leaves do this by using sunlight for energy to take apart water from the ground and carbon dioxide from the air. Leaves use parts of water and carbon dioxide to make sugar. Since this is how the plant makes it's food removing much of it's ability to do so seems counter productive. But as I say, this is just my though on it, not an actual practical test. I do realize that defoliating to get more light into some areas is great at increasing yields. I have been using a net and some defoliation to get more light below and it seems to be working fine but that obviously doesn't mean it's the best way. I am also sure there is more too it than just removing leaves. I am not the best grower out there and not even close to the most experienced so I won't take a hard stand on things I don't know from personal experience. In the end I am learning every day so I try to keep an open mind. Well except for paying $500 for a book when I can get the info elsewhere for free. That I am not open too but that is just me.
 
OldMedUser

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Bigdaddy76 said:
I’m not saying you should go out and buy the book if you can get the important info for free. However, last time I checked, we’re all growing bud, not fan leaves! Removing fan leaves gets all the bud sites more light, which is what they need to grow large! Not all stress on plants is bad. Some actually stimulates the growth we’re looking for. I’m telling you from actual experience, that if done properly it’ll definitely increase yields. You obviously can’t claim you’ll get three a light, doing this cause that’s still strain dependent, not all lights are created equal and some people just suck at growing! I can guarantee you, if you tried it, your yield would increase, as long as every other aspect of your grow is on point! ! It also helps to start adding silica, starting the end of veg.
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The fan leaves are the solar panels to make food for the whole plant. You and the author of that POS book for suckers don't have a clue how plants actually work do you.
 
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