Thrips

Murfy

Well-Known Member
ionized-

water.

spinosad is bacteria poop. mighty wash is ionized water. mixing it in solution causes the charged water molecules to react readily, losing their charge. or so it would seem.
i mix all my pesticides with it.
 

TheMan13

Well-Known Member
Has anyone tried and/or had luck with something like Orcon's mail-back Trichogramma or Green Lacewig beneficial insects for Thrip control? Each run only about 20$.

 

tomcatjones

Active Member
weather its from DOW or not, it works, and just fyi spinosad is organic, its a brewed bacterial strain. (i hvae yet to see evidence that states this otherwise)
neem is pretty much useless against any real pests, they just laugh it off.
organic doesn't mean good or safe ..something to keep in mind. and if Bt toxin were organic.. i'd still not used it based on effects.. which is the same for keeping me away from spinosad for so long (their similarities in nervous system damage are close), same reason i dont use the azamax -all of it causes nervous system damage. big or small. but.. here is my real issue now.....


Anyone use Spinosad and end up with personal problems, allergic reactions, upset stomach, vomiting?

and as far as i understand.. spinosad IS NOT bacteria or bacteria poop.. it is a chemical derived from the bacteria - and BOTH spoinosyn A and D are used.

after spraying last night, i wash up, had respirator and glasses even a bandanna on my head - after an hour or two i got queasy then i found myself over the toilet for a a half hour. PERFECTLY FINE TODAY. GF is also fine and she ate everything i did yesterday which was my first thought. but i sprayed, she didnt. and then BOOM.
 

Murfy

Well-Known Member
ever sprayed a whole field?-

it lasts for two days. some technical reading? http://www.rifetechnologies.com/

spinosad is the resulting waste from a soil biologist's strain find while vacationing in jamaica(?), under an old rum factory. it's a tea, made with a different inoculate.

The discovery and characterization of the soil actinomycete Saccharopolyspora spinosa represented a novel opportunity to develop a portfolio of progressive insect management tools (Thompson et al.1997, Sparks et al. 1998). Indeed, the discovery and subsequent development of this unique organism (Figure 1) has provided the world with an entirely new class of products - with Tracer* Naturalyte* Insect Control being the first to be commercialized.
Figure 1. Scanning electron micrographs of Saccharopolyspora spinosa show the spiny surface of the actinomycete (left) and a transectional view of the vegetative stage (right).​

The name is based on the utility of naturally produced metabolites that by definition possess rapid efficacy competitive with the best synthetic standards and safety profiles similar to benign biologicals. Spinosad is a mixture of the two most active naturally occurring metabolites (spinosyns A and D) produced by S. spinosa (Figure 2, Kirst et al., 1992).

http://ipmworld.umn.edu/chapters/hutchins2.htm


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tomcatjones

Active Member
oh-

thanks for the info. so. they spin it?
frequency generators. ...we might need to make a whole new thread.. lol .. i did a helluva lot of a research on it last year. . . supposedly all based on rife technologies.. http://rifetechnologies.com/rife.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Rife ...have you heard of structured water as well?? even more mind boggling lol..


do i think frequencies are the key... yeah i do.. it's how the universe operates. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vb9R0x_0NQ
 
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