Time To Get Rid of Concealed Carry Bans?

canndo said:

Tell me where you stand on manditory health care.

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I believe what you were trying to bring up is a requirement to purchase health care insurance.
That health care insurance company that you are forced to work to purchase a service from can then deny to pay for your medical treatments.

beardo said:

I believe what you were trying to bring up is a requirement to purchase health care insurance.
That health care insurance company that you are forced to work to purchase a service from can then deny to pay for your medical treatments.

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Not under the new law.

beardo said:

Do you mean slavery?
I'm against it.

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Slavery? pfft. That is a poor comparison - do let me know when your wife is taken from you and sold to someone in another state and you are whipped for complaining about it.

You want to make it manditory that every citizen purchase a weapon but you think making it manditory that every citizen pay for his health insurance is slavery.

canndo said:

Not under the new law.

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You are wrong,
Oh well someday when your being rounded up for extermination maybe you will think to yourself- Beardo was right, but then it will be to late
If you wake up before the elections vote Ron Paul, it's worth a shot, might be our last chance.

canndo said:

Slavery? pfft. That is a poor comparison - do let me know when your wife is taken from you and sold to someone in another state and you are whipped for complaining about it.

You want to make it manditory that every citizen purchase a weapon but you think making it manditory that every citizen pay for his health insurance is slavery.

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It's not an opinion, It Is Slavery
I think that every citizen should pay for his own health care.

beardo said:

It's not an opinion, It Is Slavery
I think that every citizen should pay for his own health care.

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the nations health is a public commons no less that water or air is. It is in all of our interest that we all be as healthy as possible.

canndo said:

the nations health is a public commons no less that water or air is. It is in all of our interest that we all be as healthy as possible.

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Except health services come from a business, in which their employees made investments to acquire the skills needed, in order to provide those skills through the business. The business pays the employees, and the clients pay the business.

Air comes from nature. You don't pay anyone for it.

Water comes from nature. You don't pay anyone for it, unless you want to.

Terrible comparison.


From what I gather in your previous posts, it appears that your anti-gun to some degree as well?

Guess what. Guns are a means of defending your life, and as such, to deny someone of that "god-given" right is nothing more than bat-shit-crazy.

No one has the right to deny another human being the right to defend themselves, just because they feel like that "god-given" right endangers their life. An absolute fallacy, is what you appear to believe in. Am I wrong?

InCognition said:

Except health services come from a business, in which their employees made investments to acquire the skills needed, in order to provide those skills through the business. The business pays the employees, and the clients pay the business.

Air comes from nature. You don't pay anyone for it.

Water comes from nature. You don't pay anyone for it, unless you want to.


Terrible comparison.

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Plus doesn't the govt pollute the air and water? And aren't companies allowed to pollute the air and water? And can't you own water and water rights? and don't they sell us water?
Aren't carbon credits being talked about as a way to buy sell and trade the rights to pollute the air I breathe?
People should be allowed to carry guns to protect themselves from others trying to force things upon them against their will.

InCognition said:

Air comes from nature. You don't pay anyone for it.

Water comes from nature. You don't pay anyone for it, unless you want to.

Terrible comparison.

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and doctors come from where?

such a fail argument. "doctors are not natural". so retarded.

i guess everyone in new york city should drive upstate to find a river when they get thirsty. angelians should invest in water distillation machines and drive to the ocean if they are parched.

stupidest argument ever.

UncleBuck said:

and doctors come from where?

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Cuba????

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My biggest problem with gun bans is they only effect the law abiding citizens, if you are going to shoot someone then i'm willing to bet you don't care if the gun is illegal or not. but at least you don't have to worry about the victim defending themselves and possibly injuring or killing the criminal that the gov then has to pay for medical treatment to save.

UncleBuck said:

and doctors come from where?
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Texas Perhaps?

beardo said:

I think that every citizen should pay for his own health care.

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Blasphemy, what kind of world do we live in when people pay for their own services?

how'd that "revolution" go, beardo?

bahahahahahahaha! FAIL!

lifegoesonbrah said:

Blasphemy, what kind of world do we live in when people pay for their own services?

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ask kent snyder how that worked out.

UncleBuck said:

ask kent snyder how that worked out.

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Ask Massachusettes how that worked out

UncleBuck said:

ask kent snyder how that worked out.

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If he had been forced to purchase healthcare insurance I'm sure he would have become immortal, Im pumped about obama care and how i'm never going to get sick because I will have insurance.

Thank god I have Obama to tell me that I need health insurance, I wasn't sure if I did or not. I do get free emergency care through the VA but I will pump some money into the insurance companies too for the hell of it cuz Obama told me that I should.

Heard a cop explaining a cool difference between hunters and the inner city gun control kids.

Game and fish officers approach hunters cordially and politely with respect because they know hunters are armed. Cops will jack up the kids and forcibly throw them over a hood of the car and pat em down knowing they are either unarmed or carrying illegally and will get shot if they brandish a gun.

Sometimes we need legitimate protection from law enforcement. Unfortunate, but true.

I wonder how many people who are getting a pay check from working for my insurance company will be able to do a successful surgery on me should I need one, seems to me I would be better to give all of the money that I will spend on health care to the doctor that I need when I need one but what do I know, I'm sure all those people answering phones and mailing letters and making advertisements for my insurance company must be making me healthier somehow, I just can't figure out how- but i'm dumb