Time To Get Rid of Concealed Carry Bans?

budlover13 said:

Whew! That was awesome.

As for your question, they may or may not. The motion sensor lets you know they are there, chain link is defeated with snips/cutters, electric fences only work with electricity (that can go down several ways but keep in mind the rule of electrical ground), trip wire of what? a party popper? Lol, might as well use a gun if using EFFECTIVE "trip wires", CC alarms? or CCTV? either way, you'll know they're coming and have video for posterity.

Will you post it on Youtube?

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just delineating between defense and offense.

congratulations on busting a nut.

squarepush3r said:

Shock Revelation: City of Aurora, Colorado Would Have Arrested Anyone Who Stopped the Batman Massacre With a Concealed Weapon

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maybe if they looked into people who bought $20k worth of guns over a couple months, including 6k rounds of ammo, this could have been averted.

no one needs an AR15 and 6,000 rounds of ammo for "self defense".

the logic of the gun nuts is simply backwards. let's talk about all the gun violence that happens in england.

There is nothing illegal about doing that. There are many legitimate reasons to spend that much.

I keep trying to find official statements that he spent $20000 on this stuff and all I seem to find is conspiracy stuff.

Could you point me in the right direction?

UncleBuck said:

the logic of the gun nuts is simply backwards. let's talk about all the gun violence that happens in england.

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"Gun politics in Mexico have resulted in some of the strictest gun laws in the world. It is in many ways similar to the United Kingdom, except with much more severe prison terms for even the smallest gun law violations."

And Mexico's murder rate per 100,000 is over 3 times higher than the US.

Nah, lets talk about Mexico.

beenthere said:

And Mexico's murder rate per 100,000 is over 3 times higher than the US.

Nah, lets talk about Mexico.

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Our lax gun control isn't good for neighboring countries.

alley.walker said:

I dont know if I should hate you or not.. Please clarify before I go to bed tonight.

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To clarify,
I usually disagree with cheesus but was giving credit to him because he was correct on this
Gun Laws and drug laws were started to target minorities
and that laws against felons owning guns are unconstitutional
felons should be entitled to gun rights just like everyone else.

Cohaagen said:

Our lax gun control isn't good for neighboring countries.

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The only American gun policies that are bad for Mexico is

squarepush3r said:

Shock Revelation: City of Aurora, Colorado Would Have Arrested Anyone Who Stopped the Batman Massacre With a Concealed Weapon

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I have no problem with that, even the shooter of a crazy should have to explain his actions, which is the point in the Trayvon Martin shooting isn't it? If I shoot someone in self defense I expect I will have to have my actions reviewed.

but seriously, who is going to go ahead and justify an AR15 and 6k rounds of ammo as being for "self defense". still waiting.

did this guy have 5k ninjas coming after him or something?

Well, in a country that is beginning to view some of something as being legal but more of something being illegal, I suppose you could make a point. I have a problem with that though. 100 rounds is ok but 1000 is not? How abouot 100 rounds each day for a week? Two boxes of pseudophed is ok but ten is not, 16 oz of Mr. Pibb is fine but 24 is not.


Was it powdered toast man who said "no sir, I don't like it".

UncleBuck said:

but seriously, who is going to go ahead and justify an AR15 and 6k rounds of ammo as being for "self defense". still waiting.

did this guy have 5k ninjas coming after him or something?

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Only difference between a hunting rifle and ar 15 is magazine capacity


BTW in england you can easily own a AR 15
But it has to be a bolt action
Other than that no stamp needed for furniture
Like sound suppressors bipod etc etc

UncleBuck said:

but seriously, who is going to go ahead and justify an AR15 and 6k rounds of ammo as being for "self defense". still waiting.

did this guy have 5k ninjas coming after him or something?

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I have an ak 47 and 1500 rounds of 7.62x39mm. I also have a few hundred rounds of 9mm.

If bullets are cheap, I am buying. I like to stock up on ammo while it's cheap(ish) and readily available. That way I won't be as paranoid when the politicians start talking about limiting the ammunition or weapons that I can own.

Also, the most important reason........ZOMBIES!

Edit:Forgot to add that it's cheaper if you buy ammo by the case (1000 rds). And that means less trips to the gun store = less gas I use = less emissions from my car = less global warming. Saving the planet here, buck.

UncleBuck said:

but seriously, who is going to go ahead and justify an AR15 and 6k rounds of ammo as being for "self defense". still waiting.

did this guy have 5k ninjas coming after him or something?

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You never know, and it would always be better to have one extra round than to be one round short
Maybe it would be ninjas you never know, but lets take Nazis
If you were a jew in Nazi Germany how many rounds would you have needed?
Or if you were in Cambodia? Or Bosnia? Or Armenia? Or China? Or the Soviet Union?
You get the point...

Bullets can be considered currency if shit hits the fan

But the reality is
Shooting is expensive
and when you take out a sporting rifle for some target practice
You can easily go thru a thousand rounds in a afternoon

UncleBuck said:

maybe if they looked into people who bought $20k worth of guns over a couple months, including 6k rounds of ammo, this could have been averted.

no one needs an AR15 and 6,000 rounds of ammo for "self defense".

the logic of the gun nuts is simply backwards. let's talk about all the gun violence that happens in england.

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How about all the regular violence that happens in England?

UncleBuck said:

but seriously, who is going to go ahead and justify an AR15 and 6k rounds of ammo as being for "self defense". still waiting.

did this guy have 5k ninjas coming after him or something?

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Which bothers you, the AR or the ammo?

I attended Frontsight for defensive handgun training. In four days I fired ~900 rounds of .40 cal ammo. If you shoot a lot, ammo is MUCH cheaper if you buy in bulk. I see absolutely nothing wrong with having 6000 rounds of ammo. I try to keep at least 1000 rounds of ammo for every gun I own.

For self defense, you are usually stuck with what is in your gun at the time. For me, that is 10 rounds.

UncleBuck said:

maybe if they looked into people who bought $20k worth of guns over a couple months, including 6k rounds of ammo, this could have been averted.

no one needs an AR15 and 6,000 rounds of ammo for "self defense".

the logic of the gun nuts is simply backwards. let's talk about all the gun violence that happens in england.

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Did Holmes spend $20K?

He had a shotgun, a rifle, and a handgun... total cost around $2,500.

6,000 rounds of ammo... around $3,000.

Total... around $5,500

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new.....gures.html
Gun crime 60pc higher than official figures
The true level of gun crime is far higher than the Government admits in official statistics, it can be revealed.
"""""Figures to be published by the Home Office this week will massively understate the scale of the problem.
Data provided to The Sunday Telegraph by nearly every police force in England and Wales, under freedom of information laws, show that the number of firearms incidents dealt with by officers annually is 60 per cent higher than figures stated by the Home Office.
Last year 5,600 firearms offences were excluded from the official figures. It means that, whereas the Home Office said there were only 9,800 offences in 2007/8, the real total was around 15,400. The latest quarterly figures, due to be released on Thursday, will again exclude a significant number of incidents."""""



A comment from Reason...

"Anybody who assigns significance or primacy to certain crimes because they're committed with a certain sort of tool is a fucking retard. Assault is assault, robbery is robbery, rape is rape, and thus forth. Who the fuck gives a shit whether it's done with a gun or a baseball bat?

You want statistics? Here's a few for your infantile mind to process, dipshit:
A small list of examples violent crime rates by country, per 100,000 people:
1) Britain: 2,034 (that's their freak, peak low, by the way, which has since risen again.
2) Austria: 1,677.
3) South Africa: 1,609.
4) Sweden: 1,123.
5) Belgium: 1,006.
6) Canada: 935.
7) Finland: 738.
United States: 466 (dropped even farther in 1.5 years since collection of data, note)."
http://reason.com/blog/2012/07/26/american-elites-obsession-with-gun-contr#comments

UK, the most violent place in Europe. Five times more dangerous than the US. The US is not even in the top 10. Even France has more per capita violent crime than the US. The "right to keep and bear" seems to be working!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196941/The-violent-country-Europe-Britain-worse-South-Africa-U-S.html

You need to find some other socialist paradise to drool over, UB.


"Recall the tragic story of Tony Martin, the British farmer who was awakened one night to the sound of breaking glass and found two burglars in his home. Martin had been robbed six times before. This time, he went downstairs, retrieved a shotgun, and fired at the intruders. For this, Martin received life in prison for killing one of the burglars, ten years for wounding the other thug, and one additional year for possession of an unregistered shotgun. The wounded burglar served just 18 months of a three-year sentence and was given $5,000 in legal assistance from Britain’s Legal Services Commission so he could sue Martin for violating his civil rights."

An armed society is a polite society.

UncleBuck said:

who is saying that doctors work for free now?

that's the whole point of the individual mandate.

apparently, doctors are unnatural and so is education. you're awesome. so enlightened.

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Who's saying people should get free service, or highly-discounted service? That's the whole reason why the mandate is bat-shit crazy, and unethical at best.

Again, yes, doctors are not natural resources, nor are teachers/professors. I am awesome, and yes, I'm enlightened. Thank you.