Time to throw in the towel?

Guys Ive been growing my plant for a month and its still very very small.
The other day the pot got knocked over and she fell out, he roots looked a bit brown.
I replanted in a bigger pot but I think I might just start over? I was planning on vegging for 2 months then budding for 2 but at this rate its going to be a small harvest.
I think it may also be a male plant

Im thinking just chuck this plant outside and let it just do what ever it wants and I start a new plant in here with a new growing medium.

so what do you guys think I should do?

also some pics for reference

Couldnt see the pics
im having a bit of the same prob
If u have room for it keep it
If not y waste ur time
im a bit further into veg so iys harder for me to let go of her
id make my mind up before u get attached to her

eh, if you're just going to throw her outside, that's a way to go about it without killing it. But, it looks like you need some aerating amendments for your soil. You might mix up some pumice or rice hull into the soil you're using and transplant into the amended soil. (mix up a batch separately, in other words, then just transplant from the current container to one with amended soil.) too early to tell if its a boy or girl.
specs on your grow would help us figure out how to help you! be easy,

Indoors? What kind of light?

DankkAbuser said:

Couldnt see the pics
im having a bit of the same prob
If u have room for it keep it
If not y waste ur time
im a bit further into veg so iys harder for me to let go of her
id make my mind up before u get attached to her

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Yeah im pretty attached to her and was really enjoying it heaps. Just once I hit the month and started looking at other peoples plants at a month it makes mine seem so bad

Temps have been getting near 40 degrees C
Im using 2 45w 6500k Cfl bulbs that are pretty big
Ive got mylar on 3 walls
I used nutes for a little bit but laid off since as it was too much.
The soil was mixed with vermiculite but none was added when I transplanted (It was in a rush)
Oscillating fan on all the time
Humidity changes from 25 to 50 but is normally on the low side

looks a bit moist to me. Transplant was from starter pot to what, a #10? what kind of soil? what kind of nutrients did you start feeding it? fan that size should probably be on low for a small seedling, esp since your humidity is low for veg. temps of 40C are way too high, what are they when lights are off? the high temps, potential big temp variation, lack of air in medium, low humidity, and unknown nutrient profile all point to multiple different potential stresses. Transplant shock alone can account for a couple days of slowed growth. you've got a month in with a fairly common set of "setback" type stresses. If you can get environs and soil optimal quickly and easily it may be worth it to save the plant--you'd be surprised how much abuse these plants can take and still produce decent fruit. I would recommend getting some good potting soil, amending it with pumice, rice hull, perlite (aeration), and some mycorrhizae and go through one more transplant. If you dust the rootball with the mycorrhizae, it will reduce the stress of transplant.
Also, don't be afraid to let your plant tell you when she wants water (drooping leaves); cycling your soil through moist-dry(ish) phases is better than overwatering for sure.
as for humidity, a dome would help but you could also just leave a wide shallow dish of water on the floor in front of the fan; depending on your setup you could also just hand wet towels in the room. or, if you want to spend some cash buy a humidifier.
gotta do something about your temps though--you need at least 8 degree drop, 12 would be pretty optimal for veg.
anywho, short answer is you've got a lot going on that could be stunting growth, but if you're willing you may as well try to use this one as a learning experience instead of just giving up and starting from square one again. Looks like you've got more research to do anyway--may as well do it on a plant with low expectations and surprise yourself!
be easy,

I bet if you get the soil fixed and let the roots get established it will take off.
Looks like a nice little plant.


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If your attached and can't part with her like I tend to do, then I would would add some pearlite or vermiculite for aeration than I would flush out any nutes that are in there and start fresh.. "No Nutes".. Don't water again for probably a week when her leaves start to droop..

Charface made good point her roots need to grow before you can feed her... Try a root stimulator with every water instead of food...

Hey guys, Im also trying to keep it on the cheap side of things but its already been a pretty big investment.
the nutes I used were 25-10-15 and I used about 1/5th strength
Planning on picking this up soon? http://www.bunnings.com.au/debco-25l-seed-raising-potting-mix_p2961173
Does it look like it'll do the job?
Im not sure how to keep the temp down and the fan is on the lowest setting but its not pointed on the plant
The temp drops down to around 27C at night time and the average high temp during the week is 37C (just days like today were 40C)
Thank you guys for all the help it really means alot!

AusPix said:

Hey guys, Im also trying to keep it on the cheap side of things but its already been a pretty big investment.
the nutes I used were 25-10-15 and I used about 1/5th strength
Planning on picking this up soon? http://www.bunnings.com.au/debco-25l-seed-raising-potting-mix_p2961173
Does it look like it'll do the job?
Im not sure how to keep the temp down and the fan is on the lowest setting but its not pointed on the plant
The temp drops down to around 27C at night time and the average high temp during the week is 37C (just days like today were 40C)
Thank you guys for all the help it really means alot!

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thats seed starting mix--should work for your purposes but will be very low in nutrients.
most common way to deal with heat is vent fan extracting hot air through ducts. doesn't look like thats quite the kind of setup you've got, though, and certainly not "cheap" to do. not really sure what to tell you since part of your heat problem is that ambient temps are high--sometimes it just means you say fuck it and grow through the less-than-optimal because thats what you've got to do. some people say wait and only grow when you can create optimal environs, others say drop the cash to build a climate-controllable growing area. I say do what you need to do to meet your goals and needs for now.
for veg: optimal temps = 25-30, relative humidity (RH) = 60-80%, get as close as you can to that and go from there. if that means doing a grow with shitty humidity or temps, thats what it means, then you have to decide whether its worth the investment to change your set-up at all.
my own personal preference is to invest most of my expenditures in the environmental areas, and then work with a solid organic soil medium so i don't really have to worry about pH, ppms, and all that jive. I can brew up some molasses + ewc tea and other enzyme and nutrient teas to supplement as needed, but largely my major expenses are on better lights, better venting etc. don't get sucked into the snakeoil salesmen at the hydro stores either, they'll always try to upsell you. now i'm just rambling so hopefully there's some help in this post for you!
be easy,

Thanks Dr.J20, you've been very helpful!
Which is more important, humidity or temp? Because when I raise the humidity the temp goes up 2C or so. I try and do it when the temps low enough to not make too much of an impact
and with the soil being lowing in nutes, how much of a problem is that? Im pretty sure the soil Im using now has no nutes in it
Thanks again bro


Oh and also possibly a mix between the soils and alright idea?

AusPix said:

Thanks Dr.J20, you've been very helpful!
Which is more important, humidity or temp? Because when I raise the humidity the temp goes up 2C or so. I try and do it when the temps low enough to not make too much of an impact
and with the soil being lowing in nutes, how much of a problem is that? Im pretty sure the soil Im using now has no nutes in it
Thanks again bro


Oh and also possibly a mix between the soils and alright idea?

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no problem, happy to help. what soil are you using right now?
temp and humidity are interrelated. relative humidity is the percentage of moisture held in the air, PV = nrT, T goes up, and P stays the same (atmospheric pressure) v must go up. where v = volume of water vapor (aka moisture in air).
so, which is more important? difficult to answer and partially subjective. I really really hate mold so i think its very important to have my humidity dialed in. that said, it isn't really an issue until late flower so I am usually more concerned with keeping my temps close to optimal, and, something i think is as important, making sure my temperature fluctuations are within 10-15 degrees.

What it sounds like you need to do is find a way to pull cool air into your situation. How you do that when its super hot outside, without doing something crazy like piping air from a freezer into your grow, or without dropping cash on an ac unit--that is a commonly fought problem and one best answered by you: you know your situation more intimately than anyone else!

mixing the soils may be decent, may not. it depends on what you're using right now. If what you're using right now is basically sphagnum peat and root bark then you're in something fairly inert, and will need to amend it either way.
good luck buddy,
Dr.J

Older seeds that are not fully developed will slow you on the get go. Don't be afraid to give it more water, providing the soil has good drainage. Go 1/6 on the fertilizer. Get some litmus paper from the drug store and test the soils ph, just to be on the safe side. She will go after she takes.

Bro, unfortunately you have a lot more wrong than the very very very very very few things you have right.
Your entire set up is an entire mess and you really need to spend a month reading how to grow mj, redesign your grow room, new soil, new amendments, etc.

Basically on your next grow, don't do anything you did this grow.

althor said:

Bro, unfortunately you have a lot more wrong than the very very very very very few things you have right.
Your entire set up is an entire mess and you really need to spend a month reading how to grow mj, redesign your grow room, new soil, new amendments, etc.

Basically on your next grow, don't do anything you did this grow.

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Every post i see you make is either incorrect or unhelpful
Out of curiosity, are you Dutch or just a miserable cunt ?

I didn't read through the whole thread but our problem is you started the plant in to big of a pot. I always start seeds in a solo cup with holes in the bottom. I transplant from there to a one gallon. Then three, then seven. You don't want a small plant in a big pot not drinking enough water. There's some reasoning behind it, that I can't remember at the moment. But trust me on this one

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AusPix said:

Thanks Dr.J20, you've been very helpful!
Which is more important, humidity or temp? Because when I raise the humidity the temp goes up 2C or so. I try and do it when the temps low enough to not make too much of an impact
and with the soil being lowing in nutes, how much of a problem is that? Im pretty sure the soil Im using now has no nutes in it
Thanks again bro


Oh and also possibly a mix between the soils and alright idea?

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DO NOT ABORT THIS GROW!!!
This is a classic learning experience.
No doubt it's frustrating - you want progress, you want to see growth
YOU WANT TO KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A SMOKE AT THE END....
but attempting to save this ONE LITTLE PLANT will learn you more than 25 easy success's.

At the moment I have 9 plants that are 34 days into flower.
During their first week I messed up the Nutes and caused nute burn
The smallest came REALLY close to death.
It took weeks of personal attention to bring her back from the brink.
Even now she's only 80% the size of her sisters
But she's alive, she's covered in smelly luscious buds
and she gives me a feeling of pride every time I look at her
(I cannot wait to uproot her, chop her up and set her on fire!).

Keep trying to save this plant until it is ABSOLUTELY obvious that she's dead.
It's not the easy way
it's the way to learn.

Travis9226 said:

I didn't read through the whole thread but our problem is you started the plant in to big of a pot. I always start seeds in a solo cup with holes in the bottom. I transplant from there to a one gallon. Then three, then seven. You don't want a small plant in a big pot not drinking enough water. There's some reasoning behind it, that I can't remember at the moment. But trust me on this one

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I disagree on this!! I am a newbie and made a mistake by starting in small cups. I killed 7 of 8 seedlings with too much water. Yes I had drainage.

Now I have started in 3 gal pots from seed. Plants are fine.

Never understood the reason to start in small pots and than transplant with it's inherent shock to the plant. I think that we get too involved in trying to grow a weed ! KISS.

In nature (and mother nature grows some great bud !) seeds start out in a very large pot, the earth !!

Just my opinion.

YMMV