Timer will not fire 400watt hps

jeff1

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Purchased a new timer and picked up a new bulb. Keeping my fingers crossed timer shuts down fan and light just fine it just won't fire the light in the am hours I tested the ballast with a identical one at the shop not the ballast. It is dual timer should I plug the fan into a different outlet ??
 

jeff1

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No iam not high when iam hooking the gear up lol the original timer worked fine with the t5s
 

topfuel29

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I take it that your timer is one that can handle the wattage. Maybe it's the bulb. Some are bad right out of the box. I had that happen to me once.
 

ibitegirls

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doesn't make sense, usually timers don't cause these issues and 400 watts is NOTHING, so your timer should be able to handle it no problem. i'm assuming you've tested your timer with other household electric products.
 

jeff1

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Yep woke up 34 min late checked my tent fan fired up just fine timer didn't fire up light omg iam out ideas here :( I have the timer plugged into a surge protector would this matter at all. Yes I had a buddy of mine at the hydro shop test it he cycled the timer around 4 or five times he got it to fire manually
 

indicatoker420

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Have you tried plugging in your light without the timer. I've never heard of a timer refusing to power up a light even if it's a big light on cheap timer. Just usually it burns out the timer after a while.
 

topfuel29

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Timer works- you tested it, it fires up the fan.
you said you tried a different ballast.
you bought a new light.
----try and plug your light into a receptucle. If that doesn't work than I would say there's a problem with something after the ballast.
if it fires up just fine. Than it has to be the timer.
You said its a dual outlet timer. You said the fan fires up fine. Try and switch the fan with the ballast. If the light fires and the fan doesn't that side of your timer is fried.
i really don't know what else to deduce. Maybe it is the surge protector, but I run my lights through a GFCI with no problems. But try it with out the surge protector just a test to narrow things out.
other things--
it is a HPS bulb? The bulb is a universal position bulb or position specific to your reflector. Ie horizontal, vertical, universal.
 

jeff1

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Yes it is a hps bulb running out of ideas


Timer works- you tested it, it fires up the fan.
you said you tried a different ballast.
you bought a new light.
----try and plug your light into a receptucle. If that doesn't work than I would say there's a problem with something after the ballast.
if it fires up just fine. Than it has to be the timer.
You said its a dual outlet timer. You said the fan fires up fine. Try and switch the fan with the ballast. If the light fires and the fan doesn't that side of your timer is fried.
i really don't know what else to deduce. Maybe it is the surge protector, but I run my lights through a GFCI with no problems. But try it with out the surge protector just a test to narrow things out.
other things--
it is a HPS bulb? The bulb is a universal position bulb or position specific to your reflector. Ie horizontal, vertical, universal.
 

wcrazy78

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Same thing happened to me the other day, brand new mechanical timer that fired up the bulb fine for two weeks just didn't anymore...unplugged and tried the MH conversion bulb and it worked fine...then un-plugged from timer and manually plugged it in to receptacle and the HPS came on as it should. I re-read the timer directions and it said to un-plug the timer from receptacle...then plug in device to timer, then plug timer into receptacle. This worked fine. Try it out and just keep an eye on it.
 

Sand4x105

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What is your max load for your plug strip ? At start up, ballast could be exceeding...
Your ballast "takes" more wattage to fire up, then to run.
If it's a Mini Lamp/Appliance timer, it might not be rated for "Fire up" of Balast...
1)-Plug ballast into plug strip without timer, does it fire
If it does Timer is problem
I am holding mini TC in my hand, on back it says:
15A (1875W) resistive load etc... I have seen ballast spikes in load only at start up [My EC background], where the 15 amp breaker will blow
Assume the easiest fix, not the hardest....
Good luck...
 

jondamon

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Hey Jeff.

Just thought I would ask what country you live in?

I am in the uk and any normal household timer will work for a short period of time but then fail.

Here we have to use Horticultural Lighting Contactors.


Just a thought.



J
 

indicatoker420

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It could be a timer that won't fire up something that has such an inductive load for health and safety. Ballasts shoot the full wattage straight away which is why contactors are recommended. I'm in uk like above. I use a 250w in a household timer.
 

jeff1

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I just plugged the timer and hps light to a wall outlet instead of running it off a surge protector adjusted the time Kept the fan on the surge let's see what happens. Everything has been plug and play up until I ran the hps light and timer together on the surge protector
 

kindbud27

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I use a cheap $10 brinks one from walmart on my 400w. but i get a 3 way and plug into the timer then plug my lights n fans into that.
Hope you get it figured out soon.

Good luck
 

jeff1

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I just wanted to say thank you to those who took the time to post and help me out. FYI don't plug a mechinal timer into a surge protector my little move worked it fired up just fine when connected to a wall outlet omg I feel like a noob
 

wcrazy78

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I haven't had any more issues since I re-did mine into the surge, but my surge is industrial wired for 20 AMP and well over the 1800 watts15A carries...no cheap surges are worth it...many are 13A or less...keep an eye on that and it may help...I have a transformer plug on my surge and use that as the timer, then I have a small fan on floor, a 6" inline fan and an air pump with the light. on one dedicated 20AMP GFcI circuit. Power is not tricky if you understand it.
 

drizzlej

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are u using your surge protector at all now? I use 2 different outlets with timers than have a surge protector connected into it from there... i had some odd problems it seemed doing the surge protector first...but GLAD u got it working man .... take it easy
 
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