Tincture that best preserves the flavor of the buds

I love chewing on a well cured piece of bud - so many wonderful flavors! The sticky stuff off my trimming shears is a little taste of heaven. I want to make a Vegetable Glycerin Tincture that will preserve as much of those flavors as possible as well as activate the THC/CBD and other cannabinoids. I intend to consume most of this sublingually but may well add some Propylene Glycol to some for use in a vape.

Most if not all of the internet searches return strength as the primary objective and yes, I want it to be strong but not at the expense of losing that wonderful flavor profile. Personally I don't mind giving up some strength for flavor - after all if it tastes really good who cares if you have to take a little more Win Win

This Moby Dick CBD has been curing for a couple of weeks now so I am getting ready to try some ideas. I made canna oil in the MBM2 with some trim and then made chocolates with it. In order to make the coconut oil it had to be decarbed first and in MHO the taste is too toasty and lacking in depth! Oh sure it works for the pain but I want more.

So if like me flavor is important to you and you have some good methods for making a VG Tincture please share that here.

Thanks,

randydj said:

So if like me flavor is important to you and you have some good methods for making a VG Tincture please share that here.

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Here's some: https://skunkpharmresearch.com/glycerin-extraction/

Cold glycerin extraction produces flavors reminiscent of wild honey, each unique.

My longest cold extraction was over three years, and used vibratory techniques the first week. One jar got inadvertently packed away and I stumbled across it years later. I saved it as a vintage jar and we opened and pressed it in class as a show and tell. It had (still does) a delightful flavor and was self decarboxylated.

VG may work, as Fadedawg stated, but be careful with other products.

I have found that with PG USP, after mixing with cannabis oil, and storing for 6 months, it starts to degrade the THC to CBN and then leaves you with a "weed hangover" in the morning. I would assume other products (chemicals) could also produce the same unwanted effects, causing the mixture to go rancid.

With alcohol extractions, I have a lot of experience and have not experienced any degradation, even after storing the concentrate for over 5 years.

Fadedawg said:

Here's some: https://skunkpharmresearch.com/glycerin-extraction/

Cold glycerin extraction produces flavors reminiscent of wild honey, each unique.

My longest cold extraction was over three years, and used vibratory techniques the first week. One jar got inadvertently packed away and I stumbled across it years later. I saved it as a vintage jar and we opened and pressed it in class as a show and tell. It had (still does) a delightful flavor and was self decarboxylated.

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Fadedawg:
Thanks for the reply. I am patient to a point but three years is definitely beyond my willpower. I have read the linked reference several time in my research. It is more informative than most.

Thanks,

Grow Goddess said:

VG may work, as Fadedawg stated, but be careful with other products.

I have found that with PG USP, after mixing with cannabis oil, and storing for 6 months, it starts to degrade the THC to CBN and then leaves you with a "weed hangover" in the morning. I would assume other products (chemicals) could also produce the same unwanted effects, causing the mixture to go rancid.

With alcohol extractions, I have a lot of experience and have not experienced any degradation, even after storing the concentrate for over 5 years.

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Grow Goddess:

I live in CA and getting 190 everclear is way harder than finding pot! Using 151 has not been satisfactory to me. I just get too much chlorophyll - green taste.

Thanks for the info. I don't plan on mixing any canna oil with glycerin or glycol. I may mix some glycol into some glycerin if I decide to vape some. I quite smoking cigarettes 41 years ago on June 15, 1970 and stopped smoking pot sometime in the mid 80s as a career choice.
I have a whole bunch of wonderful bud cured and ready to go and I don't like smoking it.

I just don't like smoking anything! The chocolates I made the other night are pretty good and the effect is quite strong but decarbing it gave it a toasty flavor that is one dimensional compared to chewing on a piece of the same bud. I want to capture that flavor.

Thanks,

Grow Goddess said:

VG may work, as Fadedawg stated, but be careful with other products.

I have found that with PG USP, after mixing with cannabis oil, and storing for 6 months, it starts to degrade the THC to CBN and then leaves you with a "weed hangover" in the morning. I would assume other products (chemicals) could also produce the same unwanted effects, causing the mixture to go rancid.

With alcohol extractions, I have a lot of experience and have not experienced any degradation, even after storing the concentrate for over 5 years.

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We've never tried to extract with PG or PEG, so no experience or history.

I did go look up that jar of glycerin and note that the notes on the lid say it was 5 years old when pressed, and that was during our last extraction class in 2013, sooooo it is now 9 years old. I sampled it and can't speak for efficacy, but it still has a delightful flavor, with citrus undertones.

I used to make a VG tincture as medicine for my dog. One time I forgot to decarb the bud first. What came out (after being in a crock pot on warm for about 36 hours) definitely carried the flavors and aromas of the cured bud from which it was made. And the stuff was sweet.

GrowinDad said:

I used to make a VG tincture as medicine for my dog. One time I forgot to decarb the bud first. What came out (after being in a crock pot on warm for about 36 hours) definitely carried the flavors and aromas of the cured bud from which it was made. And the stuff was sweet.

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Using heat produces a blend of flavors like a tasty soup, while cold extraction keeps the individual flavors unique, sort of like local pollen does for wild honey.