To clear things up, Guerilla Style

I've read a bit on the subject and have some experience growing out doors, but I've never been able to just plant straight into the ground, either from seed or small plants in the middle of the woods. Most soil in the northeast is like clay and top soil, not as soft as a potting mix.

I have seen photos of guerilla farmers, in BC in particular, literally bushwhacking into thick patches of forest and dropping small plants and harvesting them as bushes later in the year.

I guess what I want to know is if anyone has succeeded growing in the woods, amongst tall trees, i.e. - not in a field. And if so, if soil was brought in and to what extent will the plants search further than whatever soil is brought in to get their water?

AM

Antidote Man said:

amongst tall trees, i.e. - not in a field.

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The thing I noticed when planting seed in the forest is forest seed has been there. The native plants choke out the newcomer seed before the new seed can get started.

Antidote Man said:

I've read a bit on the subject and have some experience growing out doors, but I've never been able to just plant straight into the ground, either from seed or small plants in the middle of the woods. Most soil in the northeast is like clay and top soil, not as soft as a potting mix.

I have seen photos of guerilla farmers, in BC in particular, literally bushwhacking into thick patches of forest and dropping small plants and harvesting them as bushes later in the year.

I guess what I want to know is if anyone has succeeded growing in the woods, amongst tall trees, i.e. - not in a field. And if so, if soil was brought in and to what extent will the plants search further than whatever soil is brought in to get their water?

AM

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Growing in the woods means lumping water all summer, Look into swamp growing with swamp tubes.

Guerilla growers will still dig a pit for each plant, and either till and amend the earth or add richer soil for the roots. Other growers will "plumb" water from nearby creeks or watersheds & that's part of people's beef with guerilla growing, is that they really fuck up the area in this regard, usually leave lots of trash etc.

Thank you all. I have some more research to do.

I haven't gotten enough light when plants are in a "forested" area. If the ground isn't covered in vegetation, I don't think you'll have enough light. In the edge of some woods that are south facing, you'd get by.

I think I know the documentary you're referencing. That ground was what I call slightly overgrown. The ground was covered by all kinds of vegetation: small trees, shrubs, weeds, grass.

Just wanted to save you from wasted effort trying it where there is not enough sunlight. If you're going to risk it, make it count.

Antidote Man said:

I've read a bit on the subject and have some experience growing out doors, but I've never been able to just plant straight into the ground, either from seed or small plants in the middle of the woods. Most soil in the northeast is like clay and top soil, not as soft as a potting mix.

I have seen photos of guerilla farmers, in BC in particular, literally bushwhacking into thick patches of forest and dropping small plants and harvesting them as bushes later in the year.

I guess what I want to know is if anyone has succeeded growing in the woods, amongst tall trees, i.e. - not in a field. And if so, if soil was brought in and to what extent will the plants search further than whatever soil is brought in to get their water?

AM

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If you have the option to go indoor skip it. A lot of work, risky as hell, all kinds of issues dealing with the weather, finishing times and so on. It should be a last ditch option unless you happen to live in certain very rural areas. My 2 based on experience not conjecture

In 2005ish I grew some plants behind my parents house, in a grove of pine trees in a weeded area. I cleared the area, maybe 20 x 20 feet. The ground was clay-soil. I planted seeds, or seedlings, cant remember and never went back there until September - half the plants were purple, all the bud was seeded and they were thin stalks. Who knows what the seeds were, brick weed I think. I got about a dry, de-seeded ounce for 7 or 8 plants.


This is what I did, basically. Obviously more quality soil and watering methods could probably yield a bit but finding the suitable places is probably difficult.


This video made me laugh, I purchased the drill bit tiller and and one point thought of trying this in some difficult to access fields near water, but probably wont now.


This is another 'guerilla guide' that is in the woods, not in a field.

The last video I can't find. The guy had his own website - big, jacked biker guy with shaved head in BC. He was planting in heavy vegetation, I guess making his own patches in heavily forested areas and hiking in with supplies. He had a section on his site for writing, detailing his account of being chased by police helicopters and what not. I wish I could remember his name, he is a character in the Cannabis community..

Antidote Man said:

In 2005ish I grew some plants behind my parents house, in a grove of pine trees in a weeded area. I cleared the area, maybe 20 x 20 feet. The ground was clay-soil. I planted seeds, or seedlings, cant remember and never went back there until September - half the plants were purple, all the bud was seeded and they were thin stalks. Who knows what the seeds were, brick weed I think. I got about a dry, de-seeded ounce for 7 or 8 plants.

This is what I did, basically. Obviously more quality soil and watering methods could probably yield a bit but finding the suitable places is probably difficult.

This video made me laugh, I purchased the drill bit tiller and and one point thought of trying this in some difficult to access fields near water, but probably wont now.

This is another 'guerilla guide' that is in the woods, not in a field.

The last video I can't find. The guy had his own website - big, jacked biker guy with shaved head in BC. He was planting in heavy vegetation, I guess making his own patches in heavily forested areas and hiking in with supplies. He had a section on his site for writing, detailing his account of being chased by police helicopters and what not. I wish I could remember his name, he is a character in the Cannabis community..

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His name is Brown Dirt Warrior. If you need to ask here how to do it just forget it never going to work for you all ya doing is spinning ya wheels.

Antidote Man said:

half the plants were purple, all the bud was seeded and they were thin stalks.

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"Weed will grow anywhere" but the quality will be ditch weed. I've grown a lot of ditch weed indoors.

The guerrilla growers sinking trash cans have the right idea but that's a more complex caper.

rmax said:

"Weed will grow anywhere" but the quality will be ditch weed. I've grown a lot of ditch weed indoors.

The guerrilla growers sinking trash cans have the right idea but that's a more complex caper.

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LOL. now that's an idea...

thumper60 said:

His name is Brown Dirt Warrior. If you need to ask here how to do it just forget it never going to work for you all ya doing is spinning ya wheels.

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LOL again! That's absolutely who it was. He's actually a fantastic write with a clean, minimalist style to his autobiographical works. Looks like his website is gone. I saw photos/videos of him cutting sections of forest to plant in dense growth. I would think you'd have to be in good shape to do all that. I'm going to check out some of his videos again.... the idea of guerrilla growing, just the idea, is perhaps more fascinating to me than collecting seeds.

That tube looks faulty from the getgo. Watching that video, i see, too much work. I feel like places in Afghanistan, India... doesn't weed grow wild there? I'm left wondering what kind of environment would it take not to have to water them..

Antidote Man said:

That tube looks faulty from the getgo. Watching that video, i see, too much work. I feel like places in Afghanistan, India... doesn't weed grow wild there? I'm left wondering what kind of environment would it take not to have to water them..

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If you'll observe "weeds," you'll notice they don't require watering. Most any plant that grows directly in the ground can get by without watering. It's just a matter of quality/quantity.

Biggest problem with moisture for gardening in general, is the bare soil surrounding the plant. Bare soil gets very hot in the sun and causes all kinds of problems, the biggest being evaporation and too warm of a root zone. Most soil biology shuts down at a certain temperature that isn't all that hot. I want to think it's 85 degrees or so.

When I'm transplanting into the ground and don't want to have to water all the time, I simply make an X in the ground and fold the sod back, placing the plant in the middle and laying the sod right back around it. Stem coming out of the middle of the X. The ground cover keeps the moisture in place and keeps the soil cool. A thick later of litter can achieve the same thing. I use ruth stout method a lot. It's all about keeping the soil cool and slowing evaporation. This will allow rains to take care of your plant(s) for the most part. It also keeps things less obvious from the air, not so much using mulch but keeping vegetation growing right up to the stem. Competition isn't a worry when doing so, they work together to a degree.

As to your problem with native soil quality, realize that bottom ground and valleys have collected soil via runoff for years. You stand a much better chance of nice and deep top soil in lower lying areas. Hillsides are almost guaranteed to be poor quality soil.

You don't know til ya try. I would look into running some autos and get to learning.