too much/little nutrients

iron joint

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so here are a few pics of my plants. i gave them about 1tablespoon/gal of growbig and bigbloom about a week ago. some of the plants look like they are still deficient and some of them look burned. i want to figure out what deficiency they have. also in one of the shoots a leaf has spots on it, idk what deficiency that is. anyone care to help out?
 

Cali chronic

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Don't kill them with love----do not feed them until they are about 3 weeks old and when you do half to quarter strength. Most do not say on the bottle for killer chronic Buds it usually says for flowering or fruit trees or tomatoes. I follow the veggie feeding formula. 1/4 of suggested on bottle every other water. New soil has enough nutes for about a month pending on lighting and size of container at least 3 weeks though. Nutes are expensive do not waste them keep them out of our water table use them conservatively. Keep out of oceans and lakes. Peace Also when watering water when the top of the soil is dry about an inch down or the pot really gets light then water with a 10% over flow out the bottom.
 

mygirls

Medical Marijuana (MOD)
why would you feed them bloom nutes right now.. flush them out with ph'ed water and don't feed them any thing tell they perk back up. then start with a 1/4 to 1/2 strength of veg nutes not bloomnutes.
 

llop1103

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I would be careful on the nutes you give right now and def dont be giving them bloom nutes as stated above. However your plants look 100% ok all the pics you have of those leaves with spots and browing and dying are the first set of leaves the plant has when it pops from seed. Those leaves brown and die back once you get 1-3 sets of true leaves. I call those the green thumbs they are the first things to pop out when the plant starts but they are the first thing to die as well it happens on every plant everything looks perfectly fine. You are not burning them with to many nutes and your not under feeding them they look healthy just be real careful and feed very minimal to no nutes this early and def dont give them bloom nutes till you start flowering which is when you change your light cyclye to 12 hours light on and 12 hours light off
 

iron joint

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well in the second to last pic, that plant had its first set of TRUE leaves curl at the ends. that's why i thought i was feeding them to much. And in this pic im posting, fox farm tells you to use big bloom as part of the vegging process. Conflicting evidence makes things confusing....
 

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Silky Shagsalot

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so here are a few pics of my plants. i gave them about 1tablespoon/gal of growbig and bigbloom about a week ago. some of the plants look like they are still deficient and some of them look burned. i want to figure out what deficiency they have. also in one of the shoots a leaf has spots on it, idk what deficiency that is. anyone care to help out?
are the nutes you're using a 2 part type? if so then that explains things somewhat. do you have drain holes in the bottom of your cups? if not, you should. those plants look ready to transplant to me. if you keep them in those cups, it will slow down growth and eventually stunt them altogether. if all of the plants look the same as the one pic where you show the whole plant, then you need to feed them. you have 3 (or more) alternating internodes, which means FEED ME!!! no mention of ph, and no details at all really....
 

iron joint

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there are 5 plants, the 2 biggest ones were transplanted to 3 gal pots, one of them 10 days ago and 1 of them 2 days ago. the other 3 will get transplanted soon i just have to pic up more pots and soil. i dont have a meter to measure ph and i know its very important but i have to just wing it til i can get some money. i've been letting my water sit out for at least a day before using it so at least the chlorine evaporates off of it.

what do you mean are the nutrients a 2 part type? im using the fox farm liquid trio.
 

iron joint

Active Member
so yea, if anyone wants to chime in on why i shouldnt use bigbloom during vegging, cause foxfarm says i should. id LOVE to hear about, no really, i need to know.
 

mygirls

Medical Marijuana (MOD)
the reason why fox farms use bloom nutes is to correct the N P K ballance.. your bloom nutes have a higher P K and a lower N for the plant to flower. some time during flower most plants need more patasem. so i think that would be the reasoning for useing bloom nutes during veg. if you use a veg nut with a will ballanced N P K to it you should have to use any bloom nutes during veg cycle..
 
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