Total Noob using teas and I am a believer

I have had hot and cold environments and still got females. Light can determine. if there's is too much red light early on the plant will think its fall and try to live on so it becomes male to spread its pollen.

hyroot said:

I have had hot and cold environments and still got females. Light can determine. if there's is too much red light early on the plant will think its fall and try to live on so it becomes male to spread its pollen.

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A female plant can not become a male plant, it lacks a Y chromosome. All female cannabis plants, bless their hearts, have the ability to produce male flowers and pollen. It is a survival mechanism and a big reason why cannabis exists. The resulting pollen will only have X chromosomes and there fore only produce female (feminized) seeds.

Trousers said:

A female plant can not become a male plant, it lacks a Y chromosome. All female cannabis plants, bless their hearts, have the ability to produce male flowers and pollen. It is a survival mechanism and a big reason why cannabis exists. The resulting pollen will only have X chromosomes and there fore only produce female (feminized) seeds.

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Well I didn't say it converts. Early on before sexing is what I'm referring too.. We are talking about seeds not clones... A female can go hermie from too much red light early on too.

I have read many times, that this mysterious plant can convert to female under certain conditions for the first critical month. Those factors being more blue spectrum, RH around 60, low temps around 72, and NO stress...or buy/make fems of course. I've read this stuff over and over to the point where I actually followed it. Always had a good ratio until now...where it's freezing, barely any humidity, and maybe the 12/12 from seed. Just unfortunate out of my 3 top shelf packs and stow's strains...mostly male. Weird and no science to back it up.

Trousers (can I call you T-bone) do you recommend Soma style or CS for making fems? Thanks in advance T-bone.

Speaking of fems, I just got packs of Delicious Seeds Fruity Chronic Juice, Sugar Black Rose, and Cheese Candy fems!!! Time to reverse this curse!

Wow. This is like a real thread now.

Talked to the trashman about our local "organic compost" at the dump (which I've heard is worthless). The trashman told me not to touch it with my bare hands as its full of bio-solids. He said they take the gelatin like slop left over from treating sewage and mix it with the compost at the dump. Nasty.

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Talked to the trashman about our local "organic compost" at the dump (which I've heard is worthless). The trashman told me not to touch it with my bare hands as its full of bio-solids. He said they take the gelatin like slop left over from treating sewage and mix it with the compost at the dump. Nasty.

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Take that sling blade, some taters, and make that heffer hack down some horsetail. Feed it to some worms slacker. All you need is a container, lid, wigglers, and manure. Feed em your trash and they'll shit and fuck all day. Thee best thing I learned from Rrog. Black fucking gold.

Trying to find a credible source on the gender environmental influence...it's all well known breeders just swearing by it. I know I came across something scientific before. What're the chances of getting over 3/4 females for years, and all of a sudden buncha big lemon parties.

Would you guys rather keep a bonsai mom, make fems, or selective breed for a pheno? I'm thinking about revegging this cornerstone gal after a trip to Maine. I just don't like training clones with their alternating nodes.

RedCarpetMatches said:

I have read many times, that this mysterious plant can convert to female under certain conditions for the first critical month. Those factors being more blue spectrum, RH around 60, low temps around 72, and NO stress...or buy/make fems of course. I've read this stuff over and over to the point where I actually followed it. Always had a good ratio until now...where it's freezing, barely any humidity, and maybe the 12/12 from seed. Just unfortunate out of my 3 top shelf packs and stow's strains...mostly male. Weird and no science to back it up.

Trousers (can I call you T-bone) do you recommend Soma style or CS for making fems? Thanks in advance T-bone.

Speaking of fems, I just got packs of Delicious Seeds Fruity Chronic Juice, Sugar Black Rose, and Cheese Candy fems!!! Time to reverse this curse!

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I think Hyroot will be with me on this one, but Somas method is the way. Rock solid fems mate. I even bred with the fems for 2 generations before trouble started. If you have the patience it is definitely the best end result, but with the least pollen and beans coming out. A true connoisseur method.

RedCarpetMatches said:

Take that sling blade, some taters, and make that heffer hack down some horsetail. Feed it to some worms slacker. All you need is a container, lid, wigglers, and manure. Feed em your trash and they'll shit and fuck all day. Thee best thing I learned from Rrog. Black fucking gold. Trying to find a credible source on the gender environmental influence...it's all well known breeders just swearing by it. I know I came across something scientific before. What're the chances of getting over 3/4 females for years, and all of a sudden buncha big lemon parties. Would you guys rather keep a bonsai mom, make fems, or selective breed for a pheno? I'm thinking about revegging this cornerstone gal after a trip to Maine. I just don't like training clones with their alternating nodes.

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Depends on the goal. If it is for reliably producing quality medicine, moms and clones is the only way forward. Two packs from any good breeder pretty much guarantees a keeper. Clones train just as easily if not even easier. It makes sense as they age trust me, clones produce waaaay more than from seed and faster too. Breeding is for guys with ROOM. An IBL taken to F4 will require you to keep dozens of clones so you can trace back steps etc. And that is not even close on what some breeders keep around. I'll take on breeding the day I meet my breeding guru.

Nice meet you Ham lol.. I want to breed again too. I might be in March at a friends place. I almost want to rent another condo. I just don't want to breed where I am now. But I plan on using primo males. No fem pollen. I will back cross to make more stable genetics. Which alot of breeders don't do. Soma and dj short do though.

when I first started soil. I followed all of Soma's methods. I even did soil beds his style. But in Rubbermaid totes. I agree that soma's fem seed method is the best way.

Listen this time RedMuncher

I have three great strains all with 3 good males. My Bodhi SSDD male was strong like bull, and his loins smelled of fruit. Then of course I accidentally pollinated my heffer (not the smaller girl) so I will have a very good start there. Cornerstone has 4 males to choose from and my fem looks very healthy. My Blood orange has three phenos of each sex...sheesh. I'm done buying seeds, which will allow me for more room and equip! 12/12fs with vert is allowing this room and time for breeding me thinks.

I always hear about this backcrossing/square/cubing whatever, but seems so unnatural. Is it better than selective breeding your two best from several generations?

And I do listen hyrootrot.

GandalfdaGreen said:

Wow. This is like a real thread now.

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Was there any doubt? Ha Ha, hope you're doing well Gandalf.

Mad Hamish said:

Depends on the goal. If it is for reliably producing quality medicine, moms and clones is the only way forward. Breeding is for guys with ROOM.

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Couldn't have said it better Hamish. If you have the space and time to grow continuous, then mom's and clones is the way to go.

Personally, I like the freedom feminized seeds give me. Grow when I want and know only females are taking up valuable floor space in my closet.

Back crossing is crossing 2 f1's with original parents then cross 2 f2's.

blood orange ,ssdd

bo f x ssdd m = f1a

bo m x ssdd f = f1b

f1 a x f1b = f2

then cross f2 with original parents. And continue. After about 8 batches you have a fully stable back crossed strain with fewer phenos.

hyroot said:

Back crossing is crossing 2 f1's with original parents then cross 2 f2's.

blood orange ,ssdd

bo f x ssdd m = f1a

bo m x ssdd f = f1b

f1 a x f1b = f2

then cross f2 with original parents. And continue. After about 8 batches you have a fully stable back crossed strain with fewer phenos.

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Thanks for quick response for once, but now I'm confused. I though BX was done with clones. Thanks for help. I've always just took the two best from 2 or three runs to get a descent stock. Looks like I have a ways to go.

RedCarpetMatches said:

Thanks for quick response for once, but now I'm confused. I though BX was done with clones. Thanks for help. I've always just took the two best from 2 or three runs to get a descent stock. Looks like I have a ways to go.

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you can use clones. It doesn't have to be a seed. By the time you know you have a male. It's already in flower. Most breeders keep clones of all their strains female and male. You drop the male into 12/12 when the females are 7 days completed of 12/12 then run them all 2 -3 weeks longer than they normally take to finish for more viable seeds. Unless you keep the original seeds in veg and sex with clones.

I don't keep moms due to plant numbers and space. I may start mom tent with new strains and a Hans mother panel.

I love selective breeding! Nothing like hand picking your own fresh fruit. You will all be set on genetics from now on

Great stuff here guys. Holy crap. I am loving this. More. More.

So out of the 4 GG males....one appeared a week ahead of all the other similar ones. This strain seems pretty stable already! The male is very similar in structure even to my female, who is just an inch shorter. Think with these already great genetics, I'll hit up one of her branches and get enough GG funk to last a long time. If I only pollinate one good lower branch, will that effect the overall potency?

Now when I pulled the males, who were all strong mind you, they all had nice bright white roots...with f'n gnat larva on em?!?! How the effe. Two CTs, crab shell, cooked with EWC and lobster compost, and top dressed my own VC. So I watched these SOBs, and it appeared the roots weren't damaged, almost like they were trying to bite through a tire. Were their jaws gone from the chitin bacteria? I don't have too many gnats, so should I be concerned? The roots looked great...except for larva.

You guys (except hyrootrot) are great!

i found reds baby picture

you need to kill the larva. proxide solution can do the trick. or buy a treatment. gnats are huge issue 1 turns into 300 in a short time. and i know i have allot to learnd and love you all for all the great info i read here at RIU.
peace and love.