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GandalfdaGreen said:

A small update on my OGR Wifi. Neither the Single Seed Center nor OG Raskal himself will step to the plate. OGR said the SSC is not legit and the SSC said it is OGR's responsibility. Hell I showed OGR the pictures and he said that was not wifi. I could not say anything like that to the SSC. I told them my seeds were not worthy of be a collectors item. Fuck them both from now on. I was honest, respectful, sincere, etc. They just took a shit on me and moved on. Talk about a bad taste in your mouth.

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Wow. That's some bovine scatology, man. Fuck those guys.

Pinworm said:

Wow. That's some bovine scatology, man. Fuck those guys.

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fucked up right ??? and to gandalf?? anyone whos ever talked to the dude knows him and knows his karma could not reflect such bullshittery.

Agreed. Sad to see the good guys being abused.

Gandalf, I owe you a big thank-you for this thread. It's nothing but positive, and helpful. It always puts a smile on my face to see what ya'll are up to. Threads like this are hard to come by.

This site has been getting on my nerves a bit lately. It's probably just me, and my unwillingness to ignore certain members here who have a habit of talking down to people. I roll up my pants and wade in to the mud far too often. This thread, Rrogs thread in the MI section, and a few others are where my time will be spent moving forward. Focus on the plant, helping people out, and learning more.

I've been critical of subcool lately too. He has done some underhanded things that some of you may not be aware of, so I have a sour taste in my mouth where he's concerned. BUT, he has never done anything to me personally, and as a matter of fact I still have his genetics in my garden, so my thoughts on him are kind of misplaced. Plus, I know that some of you like the guy and/or his gear, and I don't mean to spread any bad vibes on that front, so I will avoid the topic moving forward. The focus will be on upping our game.

I really wish that some of you lived in MI. It would be really cool to get together once in a while to pass the peace pipe and share knowledge. Rrog has been discussing getting together to go over soil, biochar, building solar panels, etc. We have a pretty good group of guys in MI that will make this fun, but some of you guys joining in would make it that much better. Maybe we can bring a laptop and you guys can join in via Skype!

lol thats how i feel about sub. its like when you meet a really good woman but she has one bad habit that really gets to you. Ill still run his genetics. Hes juts always had an ego to him if you ask me and i dont know him any more personally than I know Barack Obama.

st0wandgrow said:

Gandalf, I owe you a big thank-you for this thread. It's nothing but positive, and helpful. It always puts a smile on my face to see what ya'll are up to. Threads like this are hard to come by.

This site has been getting on my nerves a bit lately. It's probably just me, and my unwillingness to ignore certain members here who have a habit of talking down to people. I roll up my pants and wade in to the mud far too often. This thread, Rrogs thread in the MI section, and a few others are where my time will be spent moving forward. Focus on the plant, helping people out, and learning more.

I've been critical of subcool lately too. He has done some underhanded things that some of you may not be aware of, so I have a sour taste in my mouth where he's concerned. BUT, he has never done anything to me personally, and as a matter of fact I still have his genetics in my garden, so my thoughts on him are kind of misplaced. Plus, I know that some of you like the guy and/or his gear, and I don't mean to spread any bad vibes on that front, so I will avoid the topic moving forward. The focus will be on upping our game.

I really wish that some of you lived in MI. It would be really cool to get together once in a while to pass the peace pipe and share knowledge. Rrog has been discussing getting together to go over soil, biochar, building solar panels, etc. We have a pretty good group of guys in MI that will make this fun, but some of you guys joining in would make it that much better. Maybe we can bring a laptop and you guys can join in via Skype!

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Ya Subs buying into the dark side out of frustration. It should work the other way around. I am convinced he's a good guy in with a bad crowd. Not to be funny but this Hip Hop gangsta thing... U don't like it. Wish they'd stick to their coke and bling you know. Ah but being COOL counts now eh. MEH. Yet another by product of prohibition, in an outlaw culture only the badass survive. So the good guys go badass to survive... Gandalf, pop some Blueberry Hill to take the wifi's place. I have never felt an energy like the Dream Beaver. Magic since day one. I think the NYCD is about to lose its crown in my books. Finally becoming first princess, overthrown by pure love. I am pissssssed for your sake. What skin off Rascals nose would it be to make sure his genes are legit. Figures, he's one of ol Swerves bestest friendsies. Retiring my Tahoe cut out of principle and in rebellion. Now running an exclusive South African cut, SCMK, my bud fucked up he didn't give me Tahoe girls but accidentally passed me these babies instead. He wanted them back LOL. We spoke and now I am one of only 3 people that have it. Bred by him over 7 years, and now kept in clones only, the perfect Mountain Kush He's pissed with himself, but I love him and as he admits my love earned these girls. Workin in a buddy system for 5 years now already, so I think I deserve these... Follow the love mate, follow the love.

Any Michigan peeps on this thread other than myself and Rrog?

I am fine with it. I will just buy some OG Raskal and tell people I bred it myself. Just kidding. I think. It's no worry. I had no expectations. I thought it was pretty interesting to be able to show a breeder what a pretty well known bank was selling as his gear. The Single Seed Center said they buy all their seeds from something called Amit. Anyone ever heard of it? They told me to tell this to OGR. It was interesting.

Thanks for the kind words guys. I feel the same about reading your posts on here. We all make it a positive place. I have learned to just move along if some of these people on RIU get all weird. It's not worth the drama. I am looking to grow the dankest bud I can. If it TGA, Gage, MTG, etc., so be it. The whole Sub thing is bizarre. I think some people need to grow up. I can't believe that people shit on each other on a forum that is supposed to be about fostering the goodness of this great plant.

Thanks for being such a great crew to run with. You all are the best guys on RIU.

Hamish....what are the genetics of the SMCK?

CoreyATX420 said:

on the brightside buddy. im moving to denver january 2014.done deal, jobs and school transfers set up. 22k watt 50 plant collective grow focusing on CBD. will be doing work with Top Shelf Extracts too apparently ( not fully all my connections just doing the growing )... but Im gonna start some OG breeding projects and ill hook you up with some genetics free if you can spread em across the east coast ))

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I fly out to Denver 2-3 times a year. My son hits up Summit county for comps 3 times a year. I would love to learn from the guys at that collective. Wow.

I hope you all don't mind if I ramble some more. I cut some Blue OG last week. Just a few samples before the harvest. Today was the first taste. It was just at the point of smokability. I actually sun dried it for 2 hours. I am pretty damn happy with it. I had to put down the first blunt after 1/3 of it. The second I made it halfway. These were my usual Zig Zag cut in half personals. It works really good. I can honestly smell the whisper of the Blue Moonshine. It has great bag appeal and FWIW my wife gave me shit about the smell in the house. She came in from the next room and said she was high. Mission accomplished.

What is interesting is the cross. I chose to grow this strain because of the Blue Moonshine. Blue Moonshine is the F3 pheno of Blueberry. I am fascinated how breeders use phenotypes in their crosses. One such example is Gage's Grape Puff. Grape Puff is a cross of Grape Stomper 3A and Joseph OG. The Grape Stomper 3A is a phenotype of Gage's Bright Moments. Bright Moments is Grape Stomper x Grape Stomper OG. It must be a great feeling for the breeder to find more than one such amazing phenotype in a given strain. There is so much potential out there.

I transferred some clones of the Sun Maiden, Daybreaker, and Alex Kush today. Healthy strong clones. I am excited to see their progress. I have two strong female SMs in bloom and a smaller one too. The Daybreaker and Alex Kush that are in bloom are looking nice too. I had a chance to rub the first nice trichs on a Daybreaker today. Very candy fuel scented. I hope it keeps on going in that direction. The Alex still has a candy like scent. I chose the Alex Kush because my world revolves around a male Joseph OG . I loved the idea of having a plant that has a high quality, female Larry OG as the mother. These cuts came from Harborside by Dark Heart Nurseries. The father is Blue Geez which is Empress Kush x Blue Cheese.

I do like this Blue OG. Take care guys.

GandalfdaGreen said:

I am fine with it. I will just buy some OG Raskal and tell people I bred it myself. Just kidding. I think. It's no worry. I had no expectations. I thought it was pretty interesting to be able to show a breeder what a pretty well known bank was selling as his gear. The Single Seed Center said they buy all their seeds from something called Amit. Anyone ever heard of it? They told me to tell this to OGR. It was interesting.

Thanks for the kind words guys. I feel the same about reading your posts on here. We all make it a positive place. I have learned to just move along if some of these people on RIU get all weird. It's not worth the drama. I am looking to grow the dankest bud I can. If it TGA, Gage, MTG, etc., so be it. The whole Sub thing is bizarre. I think some people need to grow up. I can't believe that people shit on each other on a forum that is supposed to be about fostering the goodness of this great plant.

Thanks for being such a great crew to run with. You all are the best guys on RIU.

Hamish....what are the genetics of the SMCK?

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He calls it Southern Cape Mountain Kush, it was bred off a Chitral Kush and NL5xHaze, back crossed a few times, then hit with a PROPA black pepper Swazi before taking the BX route again. Its a single pheno he held on to so technically not a strain as such but rather one of many possible expressions of the combined genetics. Pretty leggy but that matters not, flavour is really spicey with a good hash like aftertaste that really lingers... I am really stoked to have it, he gave me beans of it but the girls I had were more gentle fruity flavours. The spice is really incredible though mate. Zero sweetness to it, just spicey goodness, really unique. High is classic 'creative' sativa, energetic and vibey, perfect for a social smoke with friends but not girly weed, it is STRONG, gives you red eye that makes you look like you haven't slept for a week lol...

Aww nuts forgot to mention: This living soil... I too am now a believer. The LVBK in soil has without being fed just looked better and better every day after coming out the cups, going deeper green by the hour almost man. I think a few more days and they will be my best looking indoor plants ever. I am almost not even keen to flower the ones in coco any more. I almost feel bummed out looking at them now. Tweaking and tweaking on a daily basis has gotten a bit old now lol... The 'flow tables are definitely being retired. Now that I know the harm caused by my waste water during res cleans I actually feel guilty. I don't want to murder all those soil organisms and the fact that chemical nutes hit the water table eventually was upsetting news for me to get wise to. It has become a moral issue for me man. And plants in good soil are fast too, and it wasn't even as nice a mix as my latest one, can't wait for the next 4 weeks to pass now. And I can't resist starting a new cook this week either. I now have 3 huge Hessian bags full, going absolutely apeshit. And my perli and coco arrived today too muahahahahaha....

I get it. I am off to transplant some clones. I am glad to be on this trip with you bro.

I pm'd you the details gandalf. Collective as in for several different patients, extract companies etc. but this is a newly established thing. I will be the main grower there and learning alot too along the way. Everyone else is back and forth between cities. I didnt mean collective as in dispensary sorry.

Good for you man!

Quote from OGR to me:

"I have never seen Wifi do that bro.. Also I have never heard of the seed company you bought the beans from.. All packs should be breeder packs and the Wifi comes with 7 seeds... I think this place you bought the seeds from sold you some bunk seeds.... sorry bro!...~ogr"

Quote from me to the SSC:

"Hello. I did hear back from OG Raskal. He said that he has never heard of your company and that these are not his seeds. I am so confused. I can post up his response if you would like. What should I do? I have bad seeds that can't go into my collection now. I would like to work this out amicably. I have bought a lot things from your company before and have even endorsed you on the Gage Green forum and the RIU forum. Perhaps this was a mistake of some sort? I really do appreciate your help in this matter. Thank you so much."

Quote from the SSC to me:


"We operate several websites, but I am surprised that they said they have not heard of us. Let them know we purchase the seeds via Amit.


Kind regards,


The Single Seed Centre"


And the story ends here. Now that is great customer service.

I hope the end was sarcasm. they should send you a heap of freebies or something.

Here are some popcorn buds. I couldn't wait.

My pollination of the Sun Maiden by the Daybreaker has been a success. I see beans growing only where I brushed. I think there are some serious genetics in this cross. Lots of Chemdawg with Grape Stomper and Joseph OG too. I haven't heard of any testers of this. I would expect something to show up that tastes like sour grapes. Only this time the Grape is Gage's version.

Mother: https://gagegreen.org/sunm.html

Father: https://gagegreen.org/db.html

Next up is OB Ripper, Sun Maiden, LA Haze crosses. I am going to cross my best Kali Mist female with all of those. I am going to be worse than Willy Jack.

Speaking of TGA ... up late trimming some Cheesequake. This was kind of a water-only run, and despite a bit of an early fade it turned out quite nice. This plant got a couple ACT's in veg and early flower, but aside from that it was just H2O. I'm curious to smoke this and compare it to the coconut water/aloe/Ful-Power/Pro-tekt regiment plants. It looks comparable. I'm thinking that if your soil is properly amended and inoculated, not much else *needs* to be done .... but tinkering with shit is always fun.