Transplanting issue/question

Miles Joyner · Sep 29, 2011

While removing the dirt and clone(s) from thier Dixie cups, the dirt somewhat broke apart alowing the roots to freely move a little. I was very gentle and think they will eb fine. One was just starting to circle a little and I think that this will allow the roots to grow better when they grow more in their new homes (10 Gal smart pots). Any input?

I am growing with a 4' 4 Bulb T5 for clones, 1000w MH for veg and a 1000w hps set up inside a 5'x5' Hydrohut for bloom. FF basic nutes and Roots Organic 707 soil mix. I plan on making a good grow journal for people to follow for my next grow.

Organicgold · Sep 29, 2011

Hit them with some Rhizotonic or superthrive B supplement for shock. I would recommend you go to a 2 gal pot from a dixie. You get better root structure when you transplant into stages..
If you flower in 5 gal...
Seed/clone: .5-1gal
Veg: 2.5-3gal
Flower:5gal
Flower in 3gal go right from 1gal to 3g.

Organicgold · Sep 29, 2011

BTW smart choice on the Smart Pots..I'm in the process of switching over to them....they produced 1/4-1/2oz more per plant for me

stumpjumper · Sep 30, 2011

They will be fine, just thoroughly water after you transplant.

I don't neccessarily agree with the "potting up" method producing better root systems. I start in a cup and transplant to the final pot. Having roots run into the walls of the next size up container is just hindering them from spreading out into a large system, IMO...

I've never had any problems with root systems or yield... I could be wrong, but I think it's a waste of time.

My opinion and you know what they say about opinions.

Motorbuds · Sep 30, 2011

stumpjumper said:
They will be fine, just thoroughly water after you transplant.

I don't neccessarily agree with the "potting up" method producing better root systems. I start in a cup and transplant to the final pot. Having roots run into the walls of the next size up container is just hindering them from spreading out into a large system, IMO...

I've never had any problems with root systems or yield... I could be wrong, but I think it's a waste of time.

My opinion and you know what they say about opinions.

I agree with you. When I do dirt I start the seed in a one gallon pot and move either straight into a 7 gallon pot or the ground. I guess what I'm saying is I only like to up can once, doing it multiple times just seems unnecessary.

Organicgold · Sep 30, 2011

onHave you gus ever tried it? They grow faster...Roots fill the container faster ie more water nutes. When you from small to big the roots take more time to fill..less water and nutes=slower growth..
Have you done side by side study of both ways to transplant on the same strain....Well I have

blissfest · Sep 30, 2011

I let my clones or seedlings get almost rootbound in 20oz solo cups before I transplant, they get 10-12"

And I would never put a little plant in a 10 gal? It would take a month to dry out, LOL! Work your way up to that huge pot.

It would take a tree to fill out a 10 gal, I pull up to 6 oz's all the time out of 3 gal smart pots. You want the pot to be just big enough for the plant, where it is almost rootbound 3 weeks into flower when they stop growing roots.

Motorbuds · Sep 30, 2011

Organicgold said:
onHave you gus ever tried it? They grow faster...Roots fill the container faster ie more water nutes. When you from small to big the roots take more time to fill..less water and nutes=slower growth..
Have you done side by side study of both ways to transplant on the same strain....Well I have

Good for you, different strokes for different folks. I have no problem growing big trees the way I do it so if it's not broken, don't fix it.

Motorbuds · Sep 30, 2011

blissfest said:
I let my clones or seedlings get almost rootbound in 20oz solo cups before I transplant, they get 10-12"

And I would never put a little plant in a 10 gal? It would take a month to dry out, LOL! Work your way up to that huge pot.

It would take a tree to fill out a 10 gal, I pull up to 6 oz's all the time out of 3 gal smart pots. You want the pot to be just big enough for the plant, where it is almost rootbound 3 weeks into flower when they stop growing roots.

That's weird, the ground is pretty much infinite gallons and I've never seen a plant have trouble growing in it because it was too big....

stumpjumper · Sep 30, 2011

Organicgold said:
onHave you gus ever tried it? They grow faster...Roots fill the container faster ie more water nutes. When you from small to big the roots take more time to fill..less water and nutes=slower growth..
Have you done side by side study of both ways to transplant on the same strain....Well I have

Well, I've never felt the need to do a side by side. I go from cups

To 3g pots when they look like this

And in 21 days I have this

I don't see a need to change anything, I think my root growth is just fine.

Organicgold · Sep 30, 2011

True I helpinmg him out not all you MASTER GROWERS. What happend to good disscusion and debate...My meds are the best blah blah.I do it this way and its the only way...whahh whahhhaaa.
I've been growing for years and have always kept an open mind....My uncle has been growing for decades and he still does it this way also.

Organicgold · Sep 30, 2011

Mr Stump reread my reply, 3gal no need to stage. Going from dixie to 7gal.....Chance of root rot from small plant sitting in 7gal of wet soild for days that wont dry out. Why not pot up? Then you have a nice healthy root system that likes DRY feet.

Like talking to a bunch of star warz geeks on how to speak romulan.

bob harris · Sep 30, 2011

Organicgold said:
Mr Stump reread my reply, 3gal no need to stage. Going from dixie to 7gal.....Chance of root rot from small plant sitting in 7gal of wet soild for days that wont dry out. Why not pot up? Then you have a nice healthy root system that likes DRY feet.

Like talking to a bunch of star warz geeks on how to speak romulan.

I go dixie cup to 1 gal to 7 gal. The key is to water lightly at first in the 7 gal..around the edges. seems to make the roots seek the water. In my experience in soil, root mass equal yield to a large degree...

blissfest · Sep 30, 2011

Motorbuds said:
That's weird, the ground is pretty much infinite gallons and I've never seen a plant have trouble growing in it because it was too big....

The ground drys out faster pots dont, it is common growing knowledge you want to pot up in steps, and not to go from small to huge, LOL!

You're wrong, but I dont care, do what you gotta do

stumpjumper · Sep 30, 2011

Organicgold said:
True I helpinmg him out not all you MASTER GROWERS. What happend to good disscusion and debate...My meds are the best blah blah.I do it this way and its the only way...whahh whahhhaaa.
I've been growing for years and have always kept an open mind....My uncle has been growing for decades and he still does it this way also.

I thought this was good discussion and debate...

I wouldn't go from a cup to a 10g container.. Then again I would never use anything larger than a 5g and IMO 5g is too large for anything less then a 5'+ tree.

My issue was that I don't think potting from a cup to a 1/2 g to a 1g to a 3g is going to make a better root system than going from a cup to a 3g.

Motorbuds · Sep 30, 2011

blissfest said:
The ground drys out faster pots dont, it is common growing knowledge you want to pot up in steps, and not to go from small to huge, LOL!

You're wrong, but I dont care, do what you gotta do

More than one way to skin a cat bud. The ground dries out faster than pots do? Lol. You sure about that? You know there's water underground right? It also depends on how much you water your pots, everything you said is subjective, nothing is fact. Your opinion.

I've got 9 footer bent over outback that I started from seed in a 1 gallon pot and moved to a 7 gallon pot and is doing just fine. Looks to be about 20-30 oz of fine, maybe more :bigjoint:

It's a weed, it will pretty much grow anywhere unless you drown it.

Motorbuds · Sep 30, 2011

Organicgold said:
True I helpinmg him out not all you MASTER GROWERS. What happend to good disscusion and debate...My meds are the best blah blah.I do it this way and its the only way...whahh whahhhaaa.
I've been growing for years and have always kept an open mind....My uncle has been growing for decades and he still does it this way also.

Way I see it you're the one who's trying to say your way is the best way and NOT keeping an open mind. All me and stumpjumper said is you don't necessarily have to do it that way.

blissfest · Sep 30, 2011

Motorbuds said:
More than one way to skin a cat bud. The ground dries out faster than pots do? Lol. You sure about that? You know there's water underground right? It also depends on how much you water your pots, everything you said is subjective, nothing is fact. Your opinion.

I've got 9 footer bent over outback that I started from seed in a 1 gallon pot and moved to a 7 gallon pot and is doing just fine. Looks to be about 20-30 oz of fine, maybe more It's a weed, it will pretty much grow anywhere unless you drown it.

Outside the top layer drys out fast, the plant has a tap root that finds water below.

Look at Hempy buckets, only the bottom two inches has water, the rest of the bucket is fast draining.

All I was saying is, it aint right to stick a little plant in a huge smartpot, it would take forever to dry out.

3-5 gal smartpots are ideal for indoors.

Peace

Organicgold · Sep 30, 2011

Motorbuds said:
Way I see it you're the one who's trying to say your way is the best way and NOT keeping an open mind. All me and stumpjumper said is you don't necessarily have to do it that way.

True..but its still not the BEST way! And 20-30oz ok...Unless its outside or some airly ass buds no way. Sorry BS on that one.

Organicgold · Sep 30, 2011

blissfest said:
Outside the top layer drys out fast, the plant has a tap root that finds water below.

Look at Hempy buckets, only the bottom two inches has water, the rest of the bucket is fast draining.

All I was saying is, it aint right to stick a little plant in a huge smartpot, it would take forever to dry out.

3-5 gal smartpots are ideal for indoors.

Peace

Finlay...A good response.

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