Transplanting problem

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Sue1957

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Hi
5 days ago I transplanted my 3 ft plants to tubs into a small green house 20x20. I used bagged soil and I mixed a mixture cow manure mixed with potting soil then I mixed that to the to the soil in the tubs.within a couple days i seen the leaves getting these spots.now I see more plants getting them.i thought it was stress from transplanting but more plants are doing it.could this be to much heat? or the cow manure? I have no Idea what is going on.maybe two wet? I am including pic it has been 5 days since transplant they were beautiful til then.:( any help would be much appreciated.I did add pics I am not sure if they are there.
Thank you!!
Sue1957
 
Slifmon

Slifmon

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Try adding some benificial microbs orca great white. Or even better a guano tea. Worn castings ancient forest Alfa Alfa Indonesian and Mexican guano molasses brew with air stone for 24 hours
 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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Calcium def! I'll bet your going to have a Ca problem during the whole grow! Because I'll bet the farm there's no dolomite lime mixed in that soil either!!! Next time mix in 1 cup dolomite lime per cubic ft of soil mix! Don't use hydrated or "fast acting" lime as the additional chems in them are not good...
Add a Cal/Mag to your feeding asap, and run it at full strength, maybe even 7.5ml per gallon for a few waterings...
The soil has no perlite in it.....not good, but not a killer...but.
Next time add perlite at the ratio of 2 parts soil mix to 1 part perlite. This aids in the air to the roots thing BIG TIME!

Slifmon made a nice catch! I don't see drain holes in those "pots"....You want a lot with the size of those.
55 gallon drum halves.....Say maybe 10 1/2 inch holes per.....Bigger if you can.
 
Dr. Who

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Slifmon said:
Try adding some benificial microbs orca great white. Or even better a guano tea. Worn castings ancient forest Alfa Alfa Indonesian and Mexican guano molasses brew with air stone for 24 hours
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Umm,,,,Just to note.

48hrs should be your brew time for any tea.....That is at 70F.
I would not use both bat guano's at one time,,,,maybe slip in a sea bird guano for a FERT tea...

What this guy needs is an AACT basic type...
1/3 cup Alfalfa meal
1/3 cup worm castings
1/3 cup Blackstrap molasses. (I like to get mine from your local restaurant/baking supply company like Gordon Foods or Sysco...higher in carbs, that makes for higher bio counts and WAY cheaper then the little bottles in the market).

Brew for 48hrs! Use plenty of air in a bucket during this time. 2 airlines is the minimum I would consider as effective!!

I use home made "vortex" style brewers.....The best way to go. Google homemade vortex tea brewer.
 
Slifmon

Slifmon

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Brew to long can get fungus make sure it smells fresh there's more than one tea I give mine everything it needs at once it will absorbe what it wants
 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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Slifmon said:
Brew to long can get fungus make sure it smells fresh there's more than one tea I give mine everything it needs at once it will absorbe what it wants
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True, But 48hrs at 70 is the best time that gives the highest bio counts.....this is the accepted norm.....Higher temps mean shorter times and higher temps give you more chance of fungus. Do some research on this and see for yourself. Just trying to maximize your results man!

Slifmon said:
Hi brix molasses is fine
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High brix is not cheap and is lower in the carbs.....I don't care for their product. I've gotten way higher bio cell counts with store Molasses. I've done many hrs at the microscope and done my own counts......That's my 2 cents on that.

Note; Use of Kelp products in teas lower you're cell counts by 30 - 35%! Important to know if your going for high bio cell counts.
 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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Sue1957 said:
I am new at this...how should I mix the molasses.should I add some calcium
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I would not use a molasses unless you are using an AACT tea......You would use it as an ingr. in making the tea.

I would suggest as the Cal/Mag supplement, CALiMAGic from Gen Hydro for you.....Add it to your watering's at every one for a cpl of weeks then down to every other watering/feeding.
 
Slifmon

Slifmon

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U got the foam it's ready sounds sientific your method sounds good but been doing the same thing and every crop I yeald six to eight zips per plant in 5 gallon buckets without co2 or all that fancy stuff my mentor been doing the same thing for years all organic till introduced to finisher
 
Slifmon

Slifmon

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I would also cut off those dead leaves they won't recover looks like you have a lot of healthy leaves do what wa mentioned an I bet they'll recover
 
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Sue1957

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Slifmon said:
I would also cut off those dead leaves they won't recover looks like you have a lot of healthy leaves do what wa mentioned an I bet they'll recover
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Hi,I cut the damaged leaves off...was like cutting my fingers off :oops:.cloudy today so the green house is not very warm.Hope they recover.I also put multiple holes down into the soil to make sure the soil gets some air.May try re-potting very carefully this weekend ,mixing the soil with some good potting soil.see how they look this weekend.thanks..
 
Slifmon

Slifmon

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Sue1957 said:
Hi,I cut the damaged leaves off...was like cutting my fingers off :oops:.cloudy today so the green house is not very warm.Hope they recover.I also put multiple holes down into the soil to make sure the soil gets some air.May try re-potting very carefully this weekend ,mixing the soil with some good potting soil.see how they look this weekend.thanks..
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I'm sure you don't defoliate eighther ha and put holes in the root ball sounds brilliant
 
Slifmon

Slifmon

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I was being sarcastic use sorry if your unsur about something YouTube it first k there's a lot of helpful stuff out there !!
 
greasemonkeymann

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am I the only one that thinks a tea feeding isn't a good idea? he just transplanted into a growing medium with COW manure five days ago, WAS fine, now it isn't, I think adding more food is going to make it worse. Probably the manure is burning the plant. Too much undissolved solids/ i'd water the plants until the water comes out totally transparent through the bottom. Also i'm confused, there IS drainage holes at the bottom of the container, correct? Cuz if not, they're drowning as well.
Pretty sure, if i'm understanding the post correctly, that he said they were fine until AFTER he transplanted, so logic would led me to believe that it's in the soil. Don't you guys think?
looking at the soil also makes me think more perlite/vermiculite/lava rock/ is needed for drainage and aeration.
 
Slifmon

Slifmon

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greasemonkeymann said:
am I the only one that thinks a tea feeding isn't a good idea? he just transplanted into a growing medium with COW manure five days ago, WAS fine, now it isn't, I think adding more food is going to make it worse. Probably the manure is burning the plant. Too much undissolved solids/ i'd water the plants until the water comes out totally transparent through the bottom. Also i'm confused, there IS drainage holes at the bottom of the container, correct? Cuz if not, they're drowning as well.
Pretty sure, if i'm understanding the post correctly, that he said they were fine until AFTER he transplanted, so logic would led me to believe that it's in the soil. Don't you guys think?
looking at the soil also makes me think more perlite/vermiculite/lava rock/ is needed for drainage and aeration.
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Could be that too I don't see a tea hurting it I never over tead but it will activate the microbial a in the soil. Transplant shock after the plants hurting already? Could try it I wouldn't transplant till the plant is over it's funk. A transplant with sunshine mix #4 might be a good idea since the perlite is already mixed in and I personally love the stuff.
 
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