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spenceg

Active Member
what do you guys think of the lights that are on tracks that travel back and forth vs. just having stationary lights? with the lights going back and forth can you get the same effect as if you had several lights? has anybody experimented with this?
 

indyman

Active Member
My hydro shop uses them and they work bitchin,they use half the light,like if u had 4 u only need to use 2 u can cover more area with a track even if u still use the 4 lights it allows plants over the whole room to get right under the light i think that there a great thing and more and more ppl are using them!I'm going with a grow tent for my next grow just to see if it is better than what i'm doing now and it is only about 235.00 for tent 4x4x7 i think for my veg room this is best for me,but really like the new track lighting it will cut back on elec bill that's for sure!!!!!!!just to know that all plants are getting the most intense part of the light with out havin to rotate my plants makes me think that this might be the future of indoor growin.The two hydro stores i use santee hydro.com and grow a lot, they love there tracks!!and i believe that alot of ur big time growers are already using tracks to help cut cost with out sacrificing there yield!HOPE THIS HELPS PEACE BRO!
 

J.cun.Shallow

Active Member
I got a light rail I think its about 2 metres long

The light rail is good because it gets light down to the side of the plants and you can also put the light closer which means more lumens. I keep my light (600watt hps) about 18 inches from the plants

The only drawback is if you have one light traveling the hole two metres. when the light is at one end of the rail the plants at the other end are'nt really receiving any light, the answer to this is to get another light mover and have two lights each covering one metre (ish) of the light rail.

as it happens I could'nt afford another light mover so I am hanging one 600 hps stationary and have another light on the light rail covering a metre.

It's really good in veg cause it gets alot of light to the side of the plants which means bigger branches which means bigger buds

I don't think the idea of a light rail is to replace light, if your using two lights and get a light rail dont think you can use one light on the rail and get the same results
 

MeJuana

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I want a light mover but the headache of setting up the ducting for my aircooled lights shot me down from it. When I uncover my hoods and cool my whole room they will go on light movers. For now I am burning 2600 watts for 24 plants, kinda dumb.
 

resinraider

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They r deff good as u can keep a 1000 about 6-8inches from ur canopy. But if u think it will relplace another light, ur wrong. U can cover more area with the mover but not as efective as 2 lights. Ur yeild will increase as A: ur lights will be closer to the plants which in turn is more intense light aswell as deeper penatration to ur plants. B: will alow u to cover more area and C; as the light moves it hits leaves and parts if the plant that normaly be shaded with a stationary light. I'm still not exactly sure how much aera it can really cover suffiently with it as I am experimenting with mine as we speak, but if any1 with experience with a 1000 and a mover, I am interested in how much can be covered with it
 

cattalley

Member
I was reading Greg Greens Cannabis Bible and it stated in there that you could use 1, 1k HPS on a light rail and cover an area of 10x10 no prob. I got 2 lights stationary and I can hardly cover 2 3x3 trays. And I'm just wondering, I have my lights like 12-15 inches above my plants. Is that too close cause I'm not getting any burnt buds. I have 2 fans though blowing right over the tippy tops of the girls to keep the heat down. Anybody have an answer? Thanks
 

resinraider

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That's what I don't get. 10X10? I can't even see it covering 10 feet across with the rail let alone 10 feet wide? How the hell do they come up with 10X10? Like 10X10 is a square coverage where a track would make the coverage rectangle. I don't even see it covering 4X8 area properly but if sum1 is doin this ide love to hear and see about it
 

cattalley

Member
ok never mind I think I just answered my own question. Everythings ok so everythings ok sheesh. Sorry. I'm putting the joint down now
 

resinraider

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U workin with 1 hobes? What ru covering with it. I have posted a few threads and PMed a few ppl that use these but still haven't gotten a straight answer
 

Hobbes

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"What ru covering with it."

My garden is 8' x 3' x 8', I have 4 plywood floors (2'x3') that I lower and raise as needed. The buckets in this pictures are 5 gallon - 12" diameter - I have spots for 12 plants.









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There are economies of deminishing returns with stationary lights. The light receptors in these plants did not evolve to receive 12 hours of constant light, by moving the light to illuminate parts of plants in the shadow we give the rest of the plants' light receptors time to recover and work more efficiently.

Subcool uses only 6 hours of stationary light. Each half of a Light Rail garden gets 6 hours of intense light as well, but spread out better.

I cannot recommend a light mover high enough. The Light Rail got the best reviews when I was researching.

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bongsmilie
 

Pipe Dream

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here's my thought on it. I think that for best results you would either cover double the area that you would cover with a stationary lamp or have a cycle that you rotate all the plants so they get the same amount of light. Otherwise your going to have more intense light in the middle and less intense light on the sides. I think for a sea of green this would probably be great as you could maybe take the oldest plants and put them in the middle and having your younger ones on the outsides were they recieve less light, pretty much the exact opposite of a stationary lamp. I would assume your harvest would be heavier if you covered exactly twice what you would cover with the stationary lamp but maybe your plants would be a little taller and not as dense so but that's just a guess. I definately wouldn't think you could double your harvest with a light rail like 2 lamps would. As far as for vegetative growth these would be ideal for large grow ops.
 

Dirtfree

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"Otherwise your going to have more intense light in the middle and less intense light on the sides. "

The light movers they offer now stop on both ends to a desired time to promote a even canopy.
 

Hobbes

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"Otherwise your going to have more intense light in the middle and less intense light on the sides"

Pipe Dream you're right on about everything! Damn insight, took me some reading to realize this!

The Light Rail comes with a delay timer on the motor so you can set how long the light stays stationary on the ends. Depending on the travel of the light one sets their delay on either end accordingly.

+ rep for figuring that out on your own!

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"you would either cover double the area that you would cover with a stationary lamp or have a cycle that you rotate all the plants so they get the same amount of light"

Correct again, double the size but make a rectangle not a square.

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"I think for a sea of green this would probably be great as you could maybe take the oldest plants and put them in the middle and having your younger ones on the outsides were they recieve less light, pretty much the exact opposite of a stationary lamp."

Do you have your own light rail or have you been looking through my picture thread? LOL! Again, great insight. I stop my light just before the younger plants so the light is over the most mature plants and the young ones get close light if not directly over.

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"I would assume your harvest would be heavier if you covered exactly twice what you would cover with the stationary lamp but maybe your plants would be a little taller and not as dense so but that's just a guess. I definately wouldn't think you could double your harvest with a light rail like 2 lamps would."


I find that the average yield per plant with my light move is better than the average yield per plant with the same light stationary in half the space. Lighting up the shadows and giving the light receptors rest works wonders.

Kudos Pipe Dream!!

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bongsmilie
 

Pipe Dream

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No i don't have a light mover someone asked a ? the other day and I changed my asnwer 3 different times. i first figured that by adding up lumens per sq ft you would be able to get the desired lumen/ per sq ft ratio. That didn't sound right. I didn't realize they have a stopper that will rest the light for a certain amount of time on the edges that's a cool feature and probably gives you even more area to work with but the plants in the middle are going to get less light unless it rests there too. Maybe an area to walk in between two sides would be perfect as the plants could all get equal amounts of the direct light underneath the bulbs. No matter what though if your not covering twice the area of the stationary lamp your going to get overlapping light in the middle.

So hobbes are you saying that with the light rail your able to get more plants and yeild more per plant than one light? That would be incredible!
 

T.H.Cammo

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I'm working on my own version of a "Plant Mover", currantly I'm in the "Dream" phase of design (just thinking about it!).

The grow cabinet (or grow tent) is "roundish", shaped like a tin can (with the lid removed) turned "upside-down". The lights are mounted in a conventional manner, actually, everything else is normal - except the floor! The floor is a big, motorized, "Lazy-Susan" - a "slowly turning" turntable that moves the plants instead of the lights! The only real problem I am having is figuring out the "number of cycles per hour" or "R.P.M.". There doesn't seem to be a lot of data on this subject! Any help, thoughts or questions are welcome!
 
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