trayvan martin

Zimmerman has to many contradictions to his stories. His walk through does not add up to his 911 call. He contradicts himself between interviews. His lawyer will have his hands full. I wonder will he and his wife face Federal charges with the money transfers under 10, 000 trying to be undetected.
 
londonfog said:
Zimmerman has to many contradictions to his stories. His walk through does not add up to his 911 call. He contradicts himself between interviews. His lawyer will have his hands full. I wonder will he and his wife face Federal charges with the money transfers under 10, 000 trying to be undetected.
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Good point. I think the answer is yes. DOJ is looking at hate crime charges, they want him pretty bad.
 
Hmm, that's odd because I've seen about a dozen posts from you and others and seen reports of Martin's girlfriend saying right after Martin asked why he was following him, Zimmerman asked him what he was doing here. That sounds like a question and it's the first thing he did. He didn't answer Martin's question, he didn't hand him a pastrami sandwich, he asked him a question. Almost like, oh, I don't know, like he was intent on asking him that question. Strange for a fella that had no intention of asking him a question, huh?
 
MuyLocoNC said:
Hmm, that's odd because I've seen about a dozen posts from you and others and seen reports of Martin's girlfriend saying right after Martin asked why he was following him, Zimmerman asked him what he was doing here. That sounds like a question and it's the first thing he did. He didn't answer Martin's question, he didn't hand him a pastrami sandwich, he asked him a question. Almost like, oh, I don't know, like he was intent on asking him that question. Strange for a fella that had no intention of asking him a question, huh?
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you really need to listen to the interrogation with serino and hear zimmerman's own words. you are making yourself look pretty fucking stupid here.
 
UncleBuck said:
you really need to listen to the interrogation with serino and hear zimmerman's own words. you are making yourself look pretty fucking stupid here.
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So you're now saying Martin's girlfriend, the most credible witness, is lying? We know she said the first thing Zimmerman did after Martin's question, was to ask "What are you doing here?" That fact is now superseded by Zimmerman's account in the interrogation? Are we taking Zimmerman's word over Martin's girlfriend now? I thought Zimmerman was a liar and she was a stellar witness? I'm pretty sure I'm not the one contradicting myself to push an illogical supposition. Either he asked him by the sidewalk or he didn't, my understanding from reports, is she said he did. If that's the case my argument is sound, if not, she's a liar.
 
MuyLocoNC said:
So you're now saying Martin's girlfriend, the most credible witness, is lying? We know she said the first thing Zimmerman did after Martin's question, was to ask "What are you doing here?" That fact is now superseded by Zimmerman's account in the interrogation? Are we taking Zimmerman's word over Martin's girlfriend now? I thought Zimmerman was a liar and she was a stellar witness? I'm pretty sure I'm not the one contradicting myself to push an illogical supposition. Either he asked him by the sidewalk or he didn't, my understanding from reports, is she said he did. If that's the case my argument is sound, if not, she's a liar.
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You need to just roll over on this whole thing, like Harrekin did. That is the only way to be part of Bucky's in-crowd.
 
There is no "in crowd" it is a matter of right/wrong...zimm fucked up and someone died...I would wager everything I have that you two would be irate and wanting your pound of flesh if your son or nephew was killed like this.
 
MuyLocoNC said:
So you're now saying Martin's girlfriend, the most credible witness, is lying? We know she said the first thing Zimmerman did after Martin's question, was to ask "What are you doing here?" That fact is now superseded by Zimmerman's account in the interrogation? Are we taking Zimmerman's word over Martin's girlfriend now? I thought Zimmerman was a liar and she was a stellar witness? I'm pretty sure I'm not the one contradicting myself to push an illogical supposition. Either he asked him by the sidewalk or he didn't, my understanding from reports, is she said he did. If that's the case my argument is sound, if not, she's a liar.
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again, go listen to the interrogations.

zimmerman and martin had an encounter as zimm was leaving. there was some staring. that's an interaction. zimm had every opportunity to ask martin what he was doing and identify himself as neighborhood watch then and there. didn't do it.

then he had another chance to do the same while on the phone with dispatch. he didn't do it. he said it never even crossed his mind.

on the dispatch call, he even tries to hide his address from martin (i don't want to give it out, i don't know where this kid is at). he had no interest in identifying himself to martin or ask him what he was doing. that he confrontationally asked martin "what are you doing here?" without identifying himself and only AFTER martin asked him why he was following shows nothing.

if he wanted to identify himself and ask martin what he was doing, he had several chances and never did so. he could have even yelled out after chasing him, when he was worried about martin being within earshot "i'm the neighborhood watch, the cops are on their way because you are acting suspiciously". he never did that. his sole intention was to chase after and detain martin.

those assholes were always getting away.
 
Corso312 said:
There is no "in crowd" it is a matter of right/wrong...zimm fucked up and someone died...I would wager everything I have that you two would be irate and wanting your pound of flesh if your son or nephew was killed like this.
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As I've answered that obvious trap question several times before, my son wouldn't be in that position. First of all, at age 17, my son wouldn't be walking to the store at night and certainly not in the rain.

Secondly, my son would have "used his words" and diffused the situation before it got physical, because he's been taught how to do so and that there are dangerous, armed nuts out there that you don't want to piss off.

Of course, that's assuming that Martin acted differently. If Zimmerman actually did attack, assault or try to physically detain Martin and Martin did nothing to initiate the actual physical altercation, then yes, Zimmerman needs to spend a good deal of time in the pokie.

However, I've seen ZERO evidence from anyone that it happened that way. Not saying it didn't, just saying without that evidence and the presumption of innocence a juror must start with, it's a tough sell, even with inconsistencies in Zimmerman's account. I'd still put it at 50/50 as to who attacked who. As a juror, I'd need that information to overcome doubts, convict and send a man to jail.
 
What did Martin have on his person besides skittles and an Arizona Ice Tea? Did he have any cash, like $20s? It'd be interesting if any marijuana crumbs were in his pockets too.
 
Canna Sylvan said:
What did Martin have on his person besides skittles and an Arizona Ice Tea? Did he have any cash, like $20s? It'd be interesting if any marijuana crumbs were in his pockets too.
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about $40 and his phone with headset. he had THC in his system but not enough so that he would have been considered impaired in any way.
 
UncleBuck said:
about $40 and his phone with headset. he had THC in his system but not enough so that he would have been considered impaired in any way.
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What I'm saying, did the police check Martin's person for evidence he had just made a deal? In Florida, $40 makes it a possibility he did.
 
cannabineer said:
Let's say he did. Would it make any difference in the situation? cn
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Yes, gang affiliated dealers are much more paranoid. It would look bad to his superiors if the cops were questioning him, etc. It would've been easier to beat that crackah up a bit instead. If Z hadn't had a gun, it might've went down like that. It's very unlikely the cops would've did anything to Martin or if he would've even got caught.
 
Canna Sylvan said:
Yes, gang affiliated dealers are much more paranoid. It would look bad to his superiors if the cops were questioning him, etc. It would've been easier to beat that crackah up a bit instead. If Z hadn't had a gun, it might've went down like that. It's very unlikely the cops would've did anything to Martin or if he would've even got caught.
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You just made a jump from "possible weed transaction" to "gang affiliation". Non sequitur. cn
 
tryingtogrow89 said:
Why the fuck is this thread titled "trayvan martin" who the fuck is trayvan martin?
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i waited over 7,700 replies for someone to point that out :razz:

that cleared up, we can move on to the important issue: was martin selling $40 worth of weed to pay for his skittles? or was he breaking into houses with a screwdriver which he didn't have to steal wedding rings?

either way, 'no limits nigga' was probably in commission of a felony and was thus justly hunted down like a deadly criminal and shot.

good profiling on zimm's part. he didn't look like a hardcore athlete out for a jog, so he hunted the kid down. that'll play well.
 
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