Trichomes, clear vs amber

potpimp · Dec 9, 2021

I have about 30 plants that are either ripe or almost ripe. After reading the first half of the first page of this thread I decided to go ahead and chop about 10 of them since the trichs are cloudy but no amber that I can see. I'm going to let the others go 2-3 weeks longer. I had bought a new timer (couldn't find my old one) and I didn't notice the little switch on the side that turned it from "on" to "timed" - so I accidentally vegged them an extra 2-3 weeks, and of course they are really tall. This will be a nice experiment.

DrOgkush · Dec 9, 2021

potpimp said:
I have about 30 plants that are either ripe or almost ripe. After reading the first half of the first page of this thread I decided to go ahead and chop about 10 of them since the trichs are cloudy but no amber that I can see. I'm going to let the others go 2-3 weeks longer. I had bought a new timer (couldn't find my old one) and I didn't notice the little switch on the side that turned it from "on" to "timed" - so I accidentally vegged them an extra 2-3 weeks, and of course they are really tall. This will be a nice experiment.

You didn’t notice your lights were on for 24 hours for 3 weeks? Or didn’t notice your plants were not flowering for 3 weeks? I’m so lost on that one lol

potpimp · Dec 10, 2021

DrOgkush said:
You didn’t notice your lights were on for 24 hours for 3 weeks? Or didn’t notice your plants were not flowering for 3 weeks? I’m so lost on that one lol

Right; I didn't check on them when the lights were supposed to be out. I don't grow inside my home.

DrOgkush · Dec 10, 2021

potpimp said:
Right; I didn't check on them when the lights were supposed to be out. I don't grow inside my home.

So for 3 weeks. You didn realize your plant were not flowering

potpimp · Dec 10, 2021

DrOgkush said:
So for 3 weeks. You didn realize your plant were not flowering

Right, but you don't know all the circumstances.

lusidghost · Dec 10, 2021

potpimp said:
Right, but you don't know all the circumstances.

That sucks, but I can tell if they were flipped just by how moist the medium is. You must have been hella distracted.

ComputerSaysNo · Dec 10, 2021

Rurumo said:
Here is what you do. Next time you harvest a plant, leave a branch on and let it go longer, you pick how long.

I do not understand how this is not obvious to everybody.

Everybody, even first time growers with a single plant, can use this method to very easily determine a good harvest window (at least for the strain in question).

The only exception are outdoor grows, where one is usually time limited due to weather.

It is ridiculous that discussion threads like this one even exist.

I also would like to point out that Jorge Cervantes does not promote harvesting early or "with clear trichs" in his books. In fact he goes out of his way to point out that it is easy to harvest "early," but almost impossible to harvest "late."

potpimp · Dec 10, 2021

lusidghost said:
That sucks, but I can tell if they were flipped just by how moist the medium is. You must have been hella distracted.

I'm growing in hydro but yeah, having both the flu and double pneumonia is quite distracting. I was so close to death it's a wonder I made it.

lusidghost · Dec 10, 2021

potpimp said:
I'm growing in hydro but yeah, having both the flu and double pneumonia is quite distracting. I was so close to death it's a wonder I made it.

I'm glad you're still with us.

DrOgkush · Dec 10, 2021

potpimp said:
I'm growing in hydro but yeah, having both the flu and double pneumonia is quite distracting. I was so close to death it's a wonder I made it.

So you didn check your plants for those 2-3 weeks. Okay. That makes much more sense. I’m so sorry to hear you got sick. That fucking sucks when you have responsibilities involved. Glad your doing better!

Quintana · Dec 11, 2021

lusidghost said:
For one, and maybe it's different for outdoors, but to most indoor commercial growers, "max yield" really means the max amount produced within a year. Most of them aren't sitting around with a loupe thinking, "needs more amber, let it go another month." That 10 percent equals a loss if they're shaving out a harvest every so many long cycles. It's also why you don't see really any pure sativa these days.

Plus the rest of what you said about the terps and high. A couple of hours ago I took about 20 tokes off of a big tasty joint of amber laden 90+ day purple buds on the way up a mountain to take my dog on hike in the snow. I was high af and had to put it away, but I didn't find myself feeling sluggish, let alone couchlocked. Now I'm back home and feel good. I'm about to smoke the rest of the joint.

I’m in Washington state and I used to be the marketing guy for one of the largest light and air system equipment manufacturers for commercial indoor growers. In my experience:

A. Yes, they do go through their crops meticulously doing quality control and checking trichomes development. I’ve been in the facilities and have seen it myself from multiple producers.

B. In our area they only allow indoor growing, and these facilities have hundreds of plants so 10% more makes a huge difference in their profit margins and they do wait longer for higher yield.

C. You’re right, amber trichomes development isn’t 100% going to give you couch-lock, but it’s going to also depend on the strain you have. Based on feedback I’ve been given and my overall experience growing, more often than not, it’s going to be more a sedative high. That may not be the case for everyone though for sure.

DrOgkush · Dec 11, 2021

And another one

lusidghost · Dec 11, 2021

Quintana said:
I’m in Washington state and I used to be the marketing guy for one of the largest light and air system equipment manufacturers for commercial indoor growers. In my experience:

A. Yes, they do go through their crops meticulously doing quality control and checking trichomes development. I’ve been in the facilities and have seen it myself from multiple producers.

B. In our area they only allow indoor growing, and these facilities have hundreds of plants so 10% more makes a huge difference in their profit margins and they do wait longer for higher yield.

C. You’re right, amber trichomes development isn’t 100% going to give you couch-lock, but it’s going to also depend on the strain you have. Based on feedback I’ve been given and my overall experience growing, more often than not, it’s going to be more a sedative high. That may not be the case for everyone though for sure.

I’m not saying most commercial growers are necessarily pulling them early, but from what I’ve seen they aren’t letting them go all of the way to heavy amber. Even little old me gets rushed by the next cycle of unruly vegging plants from time to time.

Also here’s that joint. I just noticed that I took a picture. I smoked more than I thought. I think thc effect is mostly your mental state going in. Who could be couch locked in a winter wonderland? (A weak first snow, but better than the autumn muckland)

mudballs · Dec 11, 2021

lusidghost said:
I’m not saying most commercial growers are necessarily pulling them early, but from what I’ve seen they aren’t letting them go all of the way to heavy amber. Even little old me gets rushed by the next cycle of unruly vegging plants from time to time.

Also here’s that joint. I just noticed that I took a picture. I smoked more than I thought. I think thc effect is mostly your mental state going in. Who could be couch locked in a winter wonderland? (A weak first snow, but better than the autumn muckland)

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Oh yeah ill join ya
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DrOgkush · Dec 11, 2021

all club weed iv had and trimmed is usually immature…

Pacoson71 · Dec 11, 2021

lusidghost said:
I’m not saying most commercial growers are necessarily pulling them early, but from what I’ve seen they aren’t letting them go all of the way to heavy amber. Even little old me gets rushed by the next cycle of unruly vegging plants from time to time.

Also here’s that joint. I just noticed that I took a picture. I smoked more than I thought. I think thc effect is mostly your mental state going in. Who could be couch locked in a winter wonderland? (A weak first snow, but better than the autumn muckland)

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This can't be a Wrangler you're driving. The check engine light is off and I've never seen a full tank on one either.!!

lusidghost · Dec 11, 2021

Pacoson71 said:
This can't be a Wrangler you're driving. The check engine light is off and I've never seen a full tank on one either.!!

FJ Cruiser.

outside Dixie · Dec 11, 2021

Canuck3 said:
I know many on here don't like to use trichomes as an indicator anymore, I myself do still look at them when judging harvest time, but also take into consideration how the buds naturally look, swollen, etc.
Anyway, I see a lot of people telling others to wait until half are amber etc... Jorge Cervantes writes in his indoor horticulture book that clear trichomes are at their peak of THC, while amber shows THC diminishing, as they are beginning to decompose in a way. Hard to have big swollen buds though without trichomes turning amber already...

What do you guys think about that statement, clear vs amber and THC content?

Well i am old school ..Never used that. Always 40-60% hair turn fed pull it ...But im a outside guy.Since 76 ..Have tested it against the scope so far i pick on time.. Thanks Dixie

Herb & Suds · Dec 11, 2021

outside Dixie said:
Well i am old school ..Never used that. Always 40-60% hair turn fed pull it ...But im a outside guy.Since 76 ..Have tested it against the scope so far i pick on time.. Thanks Dixie

You should update your skills cause that is a great way to harvest too early
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twentyeight.threefive · Dec 11, 2021

outside Dixie said:
Well i am old school ..Never used that. Always 40-60% hair turn fed pull it ...But im a outside guy.Since 76 ..Have tested it against the scope so far i pick on time.. Thanks Dixie

If you're pulling when 60% of "hairs" have turned brown/orange you're pulling way too early. You're only cheating yourself out of better product.

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