Trichomes & Harvesting

Mass Medicinals

Mass Medicinals

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-DreamK said:
I recommend to flush at last 2 weeks. 1 week might not be enough... It doesn't harm your yields don't worry.
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Thanks. When we get a little closer, we will begin feeding with just water that has been pH'd to 6.0. Any feelings about elongated dark cycle before chopping? Is that real or just a myth?
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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a lot of people have tried the prolonged period of darkness before chop, the general consensus is that it doesn't really make much of a difference.
i myself am not a proponent of flushing. i won't go off on a long diatribe (which i have been known to do), i'll just say that if you do your own research into flushing, you will see that it is a myth, that does nothing its supposed to do. nothing.
 
-DreamK

-DreamK

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Mass Medicinals said:
Thanks. When we get a little closer, we will begin feeding with just water that has been pH'd to 6.0. Any feelings about elongated dark cycle before chopping? Is that real or just a myth?
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Just forget elongated dark cycles.

Maybe you flush few plants so you can compare the results?

I like flushing and I can tell the difference. I can tell the difference even though I use 100% organic soil and nutes (Maybe this doesn't make a difference so please don't attack me because this statement). Also there is no harm done by flushing so why not? (I don't know about hydro/aero grows)? You only save some nutrients for next grow. I have been flushing for 3-4 weeks few times and there was no difference in yield. Your soil and plants can hold a lot of these needed nutrients.
 
Mass Medicinals

Mass Medicinals

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Hi quick note. That wasn't to bait anyone into a long discussion. We appreciate the rapid feedback and will read up on the other subjects further.

Appreciate the feedback on our plants, and thoughts on flushing and dark period. Period. :D
 
kristoffolese

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panhead said:
One bit of additional info,you mentioned being at 60 days flower,when did you start the day count ?

If you started counting as soon as you went 12/12 then you skipped a step,all strains have a transition period where the plants metabolism switches gears from veg to bud phase,this is also when the plants will stretch out,you shouldnt start a day count until the plants fully transition from veg to bud.

Keep in mind most strains have a different length of transition,some as fast as 5-7 days & others as long as 14-18 days,most indica dominant strains are around 7 days & the more sativa in the strain the longer the transition period.

Transition from veg to bud is complete once most of the stretching out of the plant is finished & when the plant starts putting out new pistils.
I dont start a day count till see new pistils comming out of most bud sights.

If you started counting as soon as day 1 of 12/12 then you still have atleast 7 days.
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hmmm... either iv had strains finish in 28 to 35 days... or you are grossly incorrect. 42-49 days from initiating 12/12, my skunk #1 was ready to chop. So youre trying to tell us that the actual flowering time of my skunk #1 grows, were 28-42 days? You dont know what youre talking about, man. When seed companies give estimated flowering times, they are referring to the number of days/weeks between initiating 12/12, and harvest. If u were correct, itd take 63-70 days from initiating 12/12, to finish an 8week strain. Yet, the 8 week strains I run, always finish in 55 days, give or take a few days.So any nubes out there, ignore what homeboy is saying. There IS a transitional period between veg and flower, but is included in most seed co's flowering period. An 8 week strain should finish around 56 days after initiating 12/12
 
Roger A. Shrubber

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i actually don't count flowering days till i see actual buds, got to be masses of white hairs, not just one here and there
as far as the breeders estimates, i don't even pay attention to those, i've never had one be even close to accurate. some finish quite a bit sooner, some a whole lot later, you can never tell till you're growing one what its going to do
 
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CanadianDank

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I personally read the first 20 pages of this thread and it was great.
K0ijn is a smart grower and has many many times dispelled the myth of flushing.

Mass Medicinals said:
Hi quick note. That wasn't to bait anyone into a long discussion. We appreciate the rapid feedback and will read up on the other subjects further.

Appreciate the feedback on our plants, and thoughts on flushing and dark period. Period. :D
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-DreamK said:
Just forget elongated dark cycles.

Maybe you flush few plants so you can compare the results?

I like flushing and I can tell the difference. I can tell the difference even though I use 100% organic soil and nutes (Maybe this doesn't make a difference so please don't attack me because this statement). Also there is no harm done by flushing so why not? (I don't know about hydro/aero grows)? You only save some nutrients for next grow. I have been flushing for 3-4 weeks few times and there was no difference in yield. Your soil and plants can hold a lot of these needed nutrients.
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The plants store their nutrients in the roots and leaves and move them around with the stems.

Nutrients are not stored in the calyces, they are simply used by them.

All you need is a gradual reduction in your feeding schedule leading up to harvest, maybe one or two of final waterings could be plain water. But don't stress your plants by flushing unless you have nutrient or ph problems in your medium.

Peace.
 
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CanadianDank

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
i actually don't count flowering days till i see actual buds, got to be masses of white hairs, not just one here and there
as far as the breeders estimates, i don't even pay attention to those, i've never had one be even close to accurate. some finish quite a bit sooner, some a whole lot later, you can never tell till you're growing one what its going to do
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Same, usually around ten days after flip.
 
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dnt420

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Unit Farm System Supply said:
Looks really nice!! :-) if you ask me, 2~3 more weeks
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Roger A. Shrubber said:
i think you got at least a month yet, looks like it may be getting ready to do its swell, no reddish tinge to the leaf trichs, still too many white pistils.
looks good
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thanks, I think 2 weeks too, she is getting fatter day by day :grin: , I'll put another pic next week.

Is it normal that the stems are yellowing too?
 
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chiqifella

chiqifella

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CanadianDank said:
I personally read the first 20 pages of this thread and it was great.
K0ijn is a smart grower and has many many times dispelled the myth of flushing.




The plants store their nutrients in the roots and leaves and move them around with the stems.

Nutrients are not stored in the calyces, they are simply used by them.

All you need is a gradual reduction in your feeding schedule leading up to harvest, maybe one or two of final waterings could be plain water. But don't stress your plants by flushing unless you have nutrient or ph problems in your medium.

Peace.
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