trichomes in veg?

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backtracker

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tyke1973 said:
It needs a dark period there's loads of science that proves it,but the post would become a book,so to cut it short it's like a human running for 24hour a day every day,it's needs time out .go onto you tube some of the seminars will explain it faster than a post,(even autos )
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That's what I said they do need a dark period and I read the book.
 
backtracker

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VTMi'kmaq said:
science? you mean some book read, college educated ...baffle you with disertations that go nowhere? why?
Mother nature is your master. if you dont realize it's all been figured out for you long before your people started coming out a caves and such. do plants recieve dark in nature? I don't have to read, hear or be subjected to o
pdf's from anyone. mothernature did shit great before man interfered.
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I guess you were born with all that knowledge kind of like a duck knowing when to go south for the winter hey and they even know the way and no freaking book needed. My people crawled out from underneath rocks we're tough don't need no stinking cave.
 
Odin*

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Afgan King said:
Eh it works good I know a lot of big names that do it it saves money and if I can't notice a difference in growth why not save the money and enjoy the fact the plants are able to do it well. Especially when you train them for it
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Not trying to knock your methods, or hijack the thread, but they cannot be "trained" to function properly in such a varied light cycle. The big difference is within the plants. They may be growing and spreading roots, but that does not mean that conditions are optimal. (Just trying to spread good info here)

How does a combined 17.5 on/6.5 off save money over 18/6? Other than the 30 minute difference, of course. You could run a complete 17.5/6.5 cycle, that would still give you the extra 30, plants will be healthier without alternating cycles.



On topic, is she expressing sex yet (hope it's a she, unless you're planning on doing some pollen chucking).
 
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Odin* said:
Not trying to knock your methods, or hijack the thread, but they cannot be "trained" to function properly in such a varied light cycle. The big difference is within the plants. They may be growing and spreading roots, but that does not mean that conditions are optimal. (Just trying to spread good info here)

How does a combined 17.5 on/6.5 off save money over 18/6? Other than the 30 minute difference, of course. You could run a complete 17.5/6.5 cycle, that would still give you the extra 30, plants will be healthier without alternating cycles.



On topic, is she expressing sex yet (hope it's a she, unless you're planning on doing some pollen chucking).
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dont know yet, took 6 clones for a sog, once they root just gonna let them veg for bout a week then flip em
 
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Odin* said:
Not trying to knock your methods, or hijack the thread, but they cannot be "trained" to function properly in such a varied light cycle. The big difference is within the plants. They may be growing and spreading roots, but that does not mean that conditions are optimal. (Just trying to spread good info here)

How does a combined 17.5 on/6.5 off save money over 18/6? Other than the 30 minute difference, of course. You could run a complete 17.5/6.5 cycle, that would still give you the extra 30, plants will be healthier without alternating cycles.



On topic, is she expressing sex yet (hope it's a she, unless you're planning on doing some pollen chucking).
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if it is male ill be usin its pollen for sure though
 
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Odin* said:
It is more detrimental than most believe it to be. I'm well aware of the poor habits of many, that does not make it anywhere near optimal.

Most do things because "I heard it from...", some do it because "I read something that said...", and few do things due to; 1. A greater understanding of the science, 2. Their own empirical knowledge, and 3. The application of the two.

Ask the vast majority of those growers why they expose their veg'ing plants to 24hrs of light. Not one will be able to produce an answer that disproves any of the known science. The common answer will be "more light is better", some may say "C3 plants have light dependent and light independent phases, so dark is not necessary in veg". The former is just misinformed, the latter incorrect. Though the light independent phase does not require dark (for SOME, not ALL metabolic processes), it is indeed compromised in the presence of light. There are processes that do not take place in the presence of adequate light.

Edit- "light dependent and.."
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isflower production done during day or night? Or both?
 
Cx2H

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BobsBud'sBomb said:
is flower production done during day or night? Or both?
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Phytochrome is the hormone responsible for flower production.... It senses the light cycle and is what makes the plant produce flowers.... When the lights come on, phytochrome sits on standby while the plant(s) absorb(s) necessary energy to store and produce those flowers during the dark.

"Phytochrome, as it is synthesized in the dark and removed rapidly in the light."- PLANT PHYSIOLOGY and BIOCHEMISTRY GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT
http://www.academia.edu/4480678/PLANT_PHYSIOLOGY_and_BIOCHEMISTRY_GROWTH_AND_DEVELOPMENT_Narpat_Singh_Shekhawat
 
RM3

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Odin* said:
Not trying to knock your methods, or hijack the thread, but they cannot be "trained" to function properly in such a varied light cycle. The big difference is within the plants. They may be growing and spreading roots, but that does not mean that conditions are optimal. (Just trying to spread good info here)

How does a combined 17.5 on/6.5 off save money over 18/6? Other than the 30 minute difference, of course. You could run a complete 17.5/6.5 cycle, that would still give you the extra 30, plants will be healthier without alternating cycles.



On topic, is she expressing sex yet (hope it's a she, unless you're planning on doing some pollen chucking).
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Gas Lantern Routine has been around over 100 years (hence the name) they actually used gas lanterns to interrupt the night dark cycle in flowering green house plants. Tons of papers and research on this. I've been running it for years as it vastly reduces the stretch and cuts bout a week off finish times
 
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