Trim tips?

because its not enough to bother. read what i actualy post. most know what the word miniscule means and when i compared to hemp i thought some might catch on to how little it is., but its still there. serious..call dr hornby there at the lab and ask for the facts..but im sure you guys wont believe a liscened dr either.? ya bud hes a real life dr..you obvious havent been in this long or youd know who he was. first dr to get a gov liscence to do cannabis research
not sure what my old job has to do with this one..lol

and if you were able to answer phones at nasa im sure you would have some sort of exp in it or they wouldnt have hired you. why is that so hard to grasp they dont hire barristas at nasa or nute co. most seem to need to know something on the subject in order to get the job to begin with. your guys arguments dont even make sence

Not trying to start a war, but I am curious. I've made QWISO out of nothing but stems and it got me pretty baked. Was that THC or something else?

nanookofeclectic said:

Not trying to start a war, but I am curious. I've made QWISO out of nothing but stems and it got me pretty baked. Was that THC or something else?

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Just outta interest, how do you make hash from something that doesn't have trichromes? Afterall that is what hash is.

I don't know the science behind it, but basically you grind up the stems, leaves, whatever is left over, soak the in iso for a bit, filter it, then evaporate the alcohol off. I don't know much more than that. If you google it there are several how-to's though. It comes out this black, tar like substance and gets you ripped.

Well I don't really understand that process given Iv no experience with it myself so I ain't going to claim to understand it and I hate to speculate.

Ok Cannabisworks, I'll play along...in what tissue is the THC produced in the stem? Where is it stored and what is its function in the stem? You said you read the report/did the testing.

i never said i did the actual test. thats just the sort of work done in that link i posted.
i dont know if anyone knows its purpose there or in its trichomes on a bud. a trichome is a deffence mechanism but what is the chemical within for.,i dont know the exact location in the roots or stem it is made or stored but i can ask and find out. and in any stem for any chemical its a transpret system so a stem is not just supporting the plant its a hyway for it to get the food from roots to areas in the plant. its maybe not so much the thc in the stem has a purpose in there its that its in transport to where the end area is

and buddy here making his method can use the stem,. not sure how potent it would be to me but the reason he can obtain this chemical from a stem is called fat. fat is an extractor sort of. the cannabinoid molecules will bind with fat. its same process when doing the bud. tissue breaks down and cannabinoids are able to be obsorbed by the fat.
and there is another process to make this even more potent before the process of extracting is done, we can convert the last of the thca to thc and same with other cannabinoids., convert the last of the acids for more punch....is what also happens in a dry and cure

Cannabisworks said:

and buddy here making his method can use the stem,. not sure how potent it would be to me but the reason he can obtain this chemical from a stem is called fat. fat is an extractor sort of. the cannabinoid molecules will bind with fat. its same process when doing the bud. tissue breaks down and cannabinoids are able to be obsorbed by the fat.

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I think you meant to say solvent. There is no fat in isopropyl alcohol.

for solvent sits the cold that removes them...yes thank you for clearing that up. another fine eg on how forum info gets missinterpreted. thx

You're welcome. I just wasn't sure what you meant. So when I soak my plant matter in alcohol, it's the cold feeling that is caused by rapid evaporation that extracts the THC and not the solvent itself? But if It's in a sealed container how does it evaporate? I'm not trying to pester you, I'm just picking your brain to increase my own knowledge.

pick away dood. is why im here....

is why butane is better than iso., its colder. we relay arent extracting this way. we are breaking trichs off. put buds in freezer first also or over night. the rapid evap has nothing to do with it. thats just how these things work in the air. if something is in a sealed container it isnt evaping anywhere. or the iso would in dissapear in the bottle on the store shelf...need temps above what its temp is and air to evape. when i make my butane budder i place the pyrex dish on a cookie sheet and just warm tap water under to speed the evap process.so the evap has more to do with temps and air

if your interested in making any baked goods check the info in link. might find interesting. this was done by some buddies of mine a while ago.

http://www.treatingyourself.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=35191

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/7344736.html

Ah. I've tried a butane extraction before and it didn't go to well. I ended up burning the piss out of a few of my fingers. This brings me to my next question though. Well, let me start by telling you how I do it. I put my plant matter in a tupperware container, cover it with isopropyl alcohol, seal the container, shake the living hell out of it for about 2 minutes, filter the plant matte rout of the mixture, and evaporate the alcohol off. Now the question part. How, exactly, does the alcohol extract the canabanoids from the plant matter, eg stems? There are no trichomes in the stems to be desolved, so how does it work? lol. It was my understanding tha tthe solvent properties of the alcohol dissolved the THC from the plant matter, but then again I'm no scientist and have no idea what I'm talking about.

ok its kinda of a breaking of them and a melting from the fuel based extraction..yes its sort of both. there is so much info on this a whole forum could be devoted the the subject
first thinbg id not do is use plastic or tupperware for anything weed related. water on its own makes the crap in the plastic leach. think weve all seen the news on water bottles and so on..baby bottles? BPA. so the fuel based im sure would make it leach even more...no info to back thats just an assumjption based on what that form of stuff can do

for myself i wont use iso as to me its more dangerous needing more heat to evape off. like the stove as most use. with my butane i go outdoor and all i need is warm water from a tap/. dont even need to heat it

sorry it will break down the plant matter or tissue to allow the cannabinoids t o be leached out of the material. and by the cold helping by breaking it off as well.

Cannabisworks said:

if your interested in making any baked goods check the info in link. might find interesting. this was done by some buddies of mine a while ago.

http://www.treatingyourself.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=35191

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/7344736.html

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Tried reading it. WAAAAY to baked at the moment. I'll come back to it later. Haha!

Cannabisworks said:

sorry it will break down the plant matter or tissue to allow the cannabinoids t o be leached out of the material. and by the cold helping by breaking it off as well.

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Ok, I see. Thank you.

lol....sorry. i only use that type of info. i refuse to use forum info as most missread the real fact....its not easy and well have a diff interpretation of the info. ive been fortunate enough to be able to actualy work with these people and be bale to ask in person more detailed why and how info. once we get the how and why of growing then the doing is so much easier.
ive been in it over the nute burn theory and going through the same thing. being told that food is burning the plant. just dosnt happen. burns happen but not as they think

Cannabisworks said:

.ive been in it over the nute burn theory and going through the same thing. being told that food is burning the plant. just dosnt happen. burns happen but not as they think

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Elaborate please?

While we're talking, would you mind taking a look at this? These are my babies.

https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/485111-first-grow-curious-if-theyre.html