Trinidad butch T Scorpion Chili

Hey guys ,I got gifted a chili grow starter kit for christmas.I love my hot currys ,so i was well excited.But the seeds included sounded lame.. ring of fire ..hungary hot wax .. sounded kind of lame ..so i ordered some scorpion chillis seeds online.I believe they may be the hottest in the world.So i sowed them in the peat pellets provided about 2 weeks ago and was thinking nothing was going to happen ,but hey presto ,1 has came up..


this is when it came up a few days ago..


Now i need your help..

i got a few questions.. How do these peat pellets work?.. i mean do i have to put them into a pot of soil now? do the roots come through the sides? how often do i water these things?

and also can i grow chillis on a 12/12 light schedule.My cannabis will be going 12/12 in a week or 2 and i need to know if i'm going to have to source a new grow area (which will be a pain) I'd rather just leave it in with the cannabis on 12/12 if it will work..

well thanks for all your help.With your valuable input i have managed to get it to stand upright !

probably should have posted this on a chili board.

here it is today

Hi Pdc,

Congrats on getting the little fellow to sprout as these can be quite hard to get them to geminate at all.

I have not used the peat style pellets before but use soil for all of my chilli growing. The advice I would offer is that they should be planted in the same way a plug plant would be potted on. So when your TrinBscorp grows some more and it's stem becomes slighty thicker I would pot it into the next size pot you have. I personally don't pot them on again after the first time because of lack of space/time/effort. I make the first potting on stage the last by using deeper pots rather than wider pots, of my understanding chilli pepper roots prefer to grow down rather than out. So basically when the plant is a bit bigger pot it on as normal, you can either put the peat pellet into a pot with the soil surrounding it or if careful and quick, crumble the peat pellet off the plug a littel and then place the roots straight down into the new soil of the pot. I would do the lata personally as the plant will then have the extra nutes from the extra space the pellet would take up, but you have to be careful not to damage any roots when removing the peat pellet from the plug.

I would water them in the mornings and so they are damp all the way through, when you start to see excess run off water from the bottom stop watering. Try not to let the pellet or potted on plug dry out for too long - Chilli plants can be quite harder plants once established some more but in the early stages try to keep the damp. Also be careful not to over water as this can wash away any stabilitating soil and the plant could start to grow on a wonk, you want upright plants if poss as space is vaulable.

12/12 lighting is fine, just like most plants and MJ, they need a sleep in the dark to help them rest and do their thing also. What lights are you using CFL/HPS/LED? Whats the power wattage you have going on? Just interested as I am setting up my new Chilli grow and always interesting to know what others are doing in the chilli world.

Hope that helps a bit, keep posting your results and pics as be good to see the TScorps grow.

I have an audience! Happy days !

Thanks for popping in ,yes that info has helped heaps man, Thank you

You are not wrong about being difficult to sprout .I planted a 10 pack of them and only got this one to come up ,but 1 was all i wanted so well pleased.

I personally wouldn't use these pellets again, they dry out way to fast. I potted it on into a small pot ,what i did was cut the outer materiel ,not knowing it would crumble away to nothing.. had a real tricky time trying to get it in the new pot without it all crumbling away.But i managed it and it responded well to the biobizz all-mix soil i put it in ,the leaves are getting bigger and are healthy looking .. it does grow very very slow though compared to mj.

To answer your Q i am using a 250 watt hps light.. it's getting a bit tricky as the mj is now growing .. like a weed as they say and the chilli is getting increasingly shaded ,but i have managed to put the pot on a makeshift stand so it's still getting light ..it's probaly about 1.5 feet away from the bulb ,but there is no crazy stretching going on ,just the leaves pointing over towards the light nice and happily.

I will keep updating this ,becuase i know some people like yourself might be interested..I'll get a pic up of it tommorow.

l8r

Here's the update

Hi Pdc,

1 out of 10 if better than 0 and having to try again with more seeds, plus if you only wanted 1 then all's good.

Yeah I don't think I will ever try the peat pots to be honest, I think they are mainly used for people wishing to grow in hydroponics. I think they start them in the peat pots and then wash on the excess to exspose the roots before going into the set up- but could be wrong. I will be sticking with good old soil base media.

I think I will be using biobizz also for my plugs but I have a bag of the light mix because read up that this is best for seedlings and then the all mix is for the next stage. I think it's becuase the light does not have as many nutes in it to start with compared to the all mix, therefore making it easier on the seedling to germinate and start sprouting.
I have a couple of Agralan root trainers that I have brought and a secret jardin 60x60x90 propargation tent so may use the biobizz in them if I go down that route.

Yeah the super hots take quite a long time to go, I think the Tsorp is around 120 days for full grow. So quite a long time to wait but will be worth it.

I'm growing with t5 8 bulbs this time from start to finish. They are like 432 watts per unit so loads of lumes to spread about. But that's just for my set up, I couldn't tell you if HPS is better than Cfl for peppers to be honest. I think along as you give them loads of light, space and tlc then anything will grow ok.

The little fellow looks a bit young to be streching yet but keep turning it away from the light every day if it is point towards it, it will make the stem stronger earlier on and better in the long run.

Yeah keep the updates coming, always good to see pepper Glogs. I might throw mine up on here soon to see if anyone is interested and could offer some advise. I'm growing my main chilli pepper grow in a 2.8mX1.4mX2m tent. 195 dwarf pepper plants in home made 9litre vertical tubes, so a bit different from the norm and then between 20 and 40 super hot's in 2 smaller tents. My growing is to raise enough cash to buy a house outright for me and my family so going big on this grow. Fingers crossed!

With the Tscorp having a long season have you thought about trying a few other peppers out also to pass the time? Some peppers have a 60ish day season, so you could sneak another crop in if you have the room.

Hey Jolokia.

Yeah i do see how they might be useful for hydro as the peat just crumbles away completely.Very tricky to work with though.That being said ,probably a dencent environment for the seeds to germinate in,better than all mix i would say.You are doing the right thing starting in light mix for sure.

I think your light set up will be just as effective as mine ,mine might even be overkill at the moment ,but i was originaly just growing weed in there and have fitted the chilli plant in.Sadly i don't have any more room in there really so i will be just doing the one.It's more of an experiment and a bit of a hobby than a serious attempt to grow alot of chillies,but that being said ,if end up with some tscorp chillies to stick in a curry some time i will very happy and who knows i may go for a full scale grow some time.

Very interesting you saying that about raising money with them ,i thought about the same thing but thought it was another one of my dumb ideas.. can you actually make a decent amount of money with a small household chilli growing operation?

Good luck with it,I hope you succeed

Hey pdc, I've grown chiles indoors, not the Butch T but chocolate habaneros, Fataliis, and a Trinidad Red...thought I'd put in a few hints for you.

Chile plants like about 16 hours a day of lighting, and I think you would get better results with a metal halide bulb than a HPS, but probably not enough better to be worth buying a new bulb. They also like the temperature to be aound 80-85 degrees, and you'll get better results germinating seeds with a heating mat set to the same temp.

The main thing to worry about are aphids and the Borg (spider mites), they just love chile plants...but not all of them. My Fatalii peppers were completely free of infestation, while the Trinidad Reds were pretty much toast. One of those things, I guess.

Umm, I'm sure there's more but I been puffing some Lady Cane and she makes me stupid...

Oh yeah, if you want to order some live chile plants, check these folks out, big ass selection but they sell out early on the popular varieties. I've ordered from them before, they're good people...

www.chileplants.com

Best of luck on your chiles, they're almost as much fun to grow as our favorite weed

Hey feroce ,thanks for all your tips.Very helpful.

Unfortunatley i'm not really set up for growing 2 different plants ,so the chilli is just going to have to make do with the 12 hours of hps for now.I think i read that the aren't photo sensitive anyway ..of course will benefit form longer light per day ,but won't really suffer from 12...once mary jane is done she can have 16 hours of light.My hps is a duel specrum bulb .. so maybe not as good as MH ,not a million miles away from the correct spectrum..

Will deffinitly get a heating mat for next time..

and thanks for the link will check it out now..

heres a pic of the trinidad scorpion today ..i think it's about 18 days old..

Looking good. I grew Butch T outdoors last summer. Fucking hot beyond belief. They use to be the worlds hottest but not anymore. The reigning king is the Carolina Reaper aka HP22B. Averages 1,474,000 SCU! Moruga Trinidad is #2 booting the Butch T too third place. May I suggest the 7 Pod 7 Pot pepper if you like hot curry. The Tazmanian Habanero are super hot and yield great. The Taz is my personal favorite. Here is a link to the best pepper seeds anywhere www.pepperjoes.com

They will do fine on 12/12. But even better if you put them under a CFL for 6-8 hrs when the HPS is off.

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Hey alex thanks man.3rd now you say? Dang, Guess i can't tell people i got the worlds hottest chilli then : ( lol.
It will probably still be to hot for me to be honest.. going to these from supermarket chillies is quite a step up .
Gotta look into those other strains now.. it's kind of interesting ..not as intersting as cannabis strains ,but nearly ..lol later

A jalapeno is around 5000 SCU tops and store bought habaneros may reach 40,000 SCU. Your Butch T is around 1,300,000 SCU give or take. When you harvest or handle the fruit I recommend wearing latex gloves. The capsaicin is so hot it can blister your skin if too much is left on for too long. But they are some tasty bastards.

sounds good.. can't wait..

Chile Lovers!! Yeeeeaaaah!!

First off my favorite resource for seeds is the New Mexico State University Chile Pepper Institute - www.chilepepperinstitute.org

These guys are legit. Something about buying from a university makes it feel less likely that I'm getting ripped off by someone pulling a switcheroo with the seeds.

Anyway I did some Bhut Jolokias (aka Ghost Peppers) last year and WOW are those plants a pain in the ass. Talk about freaking finicky. I'm going to try some more this year, hopefully they are another strand further along and they have improved germination and fruiting. This year they are advising to plant them next to habaneros to improve fruiting but I'm wondering if they will cross pollinate and dilute the spiciness of the ghost pepper. I know it seems odd to think a habanero would make something less spicy but compared to a bhut jolokia a habanero tastes like apple sauce.

One other tip along the lines of latex gloves. If you do handle some peppers be very conscious of that if you plan to insert or remove your contacts for the next day or two. This was a hard learned lesson for me.

Good source on the peppers longman. And I can say Pepper Joes is legit. I have been getting seeds from them for a few years. He always has some crosses to be found nowhere else. His girl friend Penny- www.pennystomatoes.com -has a very nice selection heirloom tomatoes if you are into that. Both are great seeds sources.....
And you must try the Tazmanian Habaero, no applesauce here! lol 1,000,000 plus SCU.....

Im currently growing some naga jolokias and some bir jolokias, they've taken ages to take off and are only now starting to fruit after about 3 months! Really hoping to get some decent chillis off it but not sure how many i'll get as it will start to get cold here soon! I'll take some pics tomorrow and put em up

Good luck dude, the trinidads are awesome, the heat is just unbelievable awesome in curries though!!

I'm waiting for my order to come in for some bhuts and chocolate bhuts. Can't wait for spring!!!

A lot of folks around here have been buzzing about the chocolate bhuts. I have yet to try one but those have tried them say the flavor is second too none.

I grew Trinidad Morouga Scorpions last year, but it didn't go so well...too much nitrogen in the soil, as a result, barely any fruit, and only one pepper even got ripe before the frosts came...Better luck this year, i hope...