veggiegardener
Well-Known Member
Fertilizer is expensive.
Thieves make good fertilizer.
Slow release.
Thieves make good fertilizer.
Slow release.
True story - house raided -what my local cops told me
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Kindwoman
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Oh my gosh! That's HILARIOUS!
Kindwoman
Member
Karma is still in effect. Just saying that when we talked about it..... and we have a lot, if they were coming for us, we were going to fully commit to stopping them once and for all. Don't know exactly where to "aim to maim". Do know where to "shoot to kill". Remember if it came right down to it.... these assholes are out to take OUR lives.
veggiegardener
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In my city, if you want a quick response, tell the 911 operator the invaders are all dead, already.
They'll arrive quickly.
If told the invaders are armed and in your house, the police will wait until the shooting stops, or twenty minutes. Whichever is longer....
Protect and serve?
Not likely.
veggiegardener
Well-Known Member
One should empty the gun.
It indicates fear and panic which bolsters your self defense claims.
A friend shot a home invader only twice. It cost $80,000 to get him released. The second shot was in the back of the head, as the perp turned to run. Obviously, no further shots were required, but the prosecution attempted to pin a coup de grace on my buddy. Fortunately his family is very wealthy, and could afford experts to prove my friend acted in his own defense.
Expecting the Justice System to support you in a self defense case is silly.
LorDeMO
Active Member
Well, I suppose the law is different for the UK. Here you can shoot an intruder but anymore than 2/3 shots is considered overkill and they also take into account where you shoot them, ie. a shot in the back is not considered self defence. It's a very grey area, I am just of the opinion that taking life is wrong. I am not saying I wouldn't kill someone to save my life, I'm just saying if by chance I could stop an intruder without killing them that would be great.
danno48
Active Member
What disturbs me is that people can even call the cops on somebody and they just rush over. Did the pigs even have a warrant? If you're a legal grower why couldn't they just punch your name, address or registration number up on a database and figure out that you are legal? Why did they waste so much of the taxpayers dollars having all those cops come to your house? Just the gas they wasted, never mind the man hours they were paid for, just to chase a wild goose, is substantial. That's horseshit! If you are required to "get a card", pay money for it etc, then you should be registered some how, some where, that you are a legal grower. What the fuck's the point in paying the state a $65 (or whatever it is) fee to have a card if they can't have a simple statewide database listing all legal growers? The sheriff's department, or local copshop could have simply checked a database and found that you were legal without all the damned hoopla and waste of taxpayers dollars. Our government fucking sucks! All they do is pretty much waste our money on GD bullshit! I'll stop this tirade now, but damned if this kinda incompetence doesn't piss me off!
Kindwoman
Member
According to the search warrant, the implication was that we were dealing. Not only did we have cards, we both also had medical documents - MRI's, etc. Plus my husband meds (injections) in the fridge. The investigating officer DID call the number on our cards and we were quickly verified. The cops told us that they wished everyone would keep their medical documents with their cards like we did. One other interesting thing. They told us that if we would have had a California State issued medical card (not one through a civilian doctor), that they would not have tore up our house. Seems they put a lot of legitimacy in that one card. My husband and I never felt comfortable registering with the State (still don't). We did not go out and get that card (as the cops had suggested). The less Big Brother knows about us, the better.
veggiegardener
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We are definitely on the same page.
Big Brother is among us. Keep him clueless, for best results.
The cards are much like the six pointed stars worn by German Jews in the '30s.
Just a way to find us, and send us to the furnaces.(Think Teabaggers in power.)
Gr33nM1nd
Member
Did you ever think that it might be good karma to release this soul from the hellish existence it is suffering??? IMHO an idiot all geeked up on tweak is a tank, an likely to come at you with more gusto after being wounded. Aiming to kill is justifiable in this case.
I am grateful that this thread was posted. I think it will help my girl be more confident.
Kindwomen- just an fyi to cya;
I would start a journal that would go back to when you first started dealing with these guys, then keep it current on all of your dealings with them. It may only be anecdotal evidence but this is admissible and coo berates your story. It is difficult for a lawyer to cover a consistent log of activity, and it will go a long way in establishing your creditability. "He said she said" is or, my word against yours is hearsay when three individuals are involved.
Tweakers are F@&ked and I think that this will not be the last you hear from them, I too speak from experience, although I am clean now. You sound like a peaceable person and I wish you well.
Some times the best defense is a good offense.
Peace
Greenmind
Kindwoman
Member
I actually started a journel as soon as they started hurling motor oil and battery acid on my very young outside girls. Only was able to stop that by putting up a fine mesh cover OVER the girls. Didn't mention that part before because the story would have just gotten too long. This started AFTER we enclosed the parameter around them so that they couldn't steal from us. Luckily we started early enough because they took out two crops. After we put the camera's up we took down the mesh. By the way, couldn't help but give my journal a title - It's called "Lovers, fuckers and thieves. Not knowing your Girl's story, I can only say to her that confidence is not lost on a coward, and it knocks them off balance.
veggiegardener
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I'd say, if they do anything more, you call the police, tell them the story, and suggest that your neighbors appear to be using Methamphetamine.
Maybe they'd enjoy having a bunch of happy cops ripping their house up(and probably finding enough Meth to eliminate a neighbor problem)?
One thing about druggies. They don't get it, when it comes to be "protected" by law enforcement.
Learning to play the game is the best revenge against those who think they've got an edge.
Maybe they'd enjoy having a bunch of happy cops ripping their house up(and probably finding enough Meth to eliminate a neighbor problem)?
One thing about druggies. They don't get it, when it comes to be "protected" by law enforcement.
Learning to play the game is the best revenge against those who think they've got an edge.
patlpp
New Member
Totally uncalled for.
veggiegardener
Well-Known Member
Nevertheless, exactly why I won't have one.
Most MMJ patients won't get them because of cost. Many of the ill have a hard time affording food, much less what amounts to a use tax on their medicine.
What happens if the Feds, well within their power, decide to confiscate the counties records, and go door to door, confiscating the killer weed?
I've lived long enough to see an extreme change in the American people. The cooperation built during World War 2 has finally and completely disappeared.
We have two extreme factions, almost perfectly matched, in an ideological tug of war, that could break out in violence with just a little push.
The Civil War comes to mind.
Think about the rhetoric that flew around in the 1850's. A lot of people died because a compromise couldn't be reached.
I'm not talking about Cannabis only, but the myriad issues that have people screaming at each other.
Just like the 1850's except we spread information and opinions about a million times as fast.
Kindwoman
Member
Thank you. Yes, I've been thinking about starting a grow journal. Still too many hot days here in SoCal. We're starting back up in another month or so.....Stay Tuned!
Kindwoman
Member
Yes, these cards are way more expensive. I too have lived long enough to learn not to give ANY information on myself to Big Brother. I'd much rather deal with my local cops than those Mother f*&%ker's. As good as it sounds (if you are talking to the police anyway)... I don't trust it at all.
a state card is another form of protection. if you took the time to look into it you would get one. i have had one since they first offered them 5 years ago. you go into a statewide CONFIRMED PATIENT database as a PICTURE of you and a NUMBER. nowhere is your name or address stored or registered. if you want added protection, get your state ID card. it is recognized by ALL law enforcement within the state. very beneficial if you ever plan on leaving your town and having anything on you.
it is not a way to come hunt you down.
it is not a way to come hunt you down.
veggiegardener
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Actually I don't believe the cards are available in my county. It's made it easy to ignore.
I carry a current copy of my recommendation when carrying any sort of meds. I usually just carry edibles....
I carry a current copy of my recommendation when carrying any sort of meds. I usually just carry edibles....