Trump plans to end citizenship for children of immigrants born in US

blake9999

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President Donald Trump is planning to sign an executive order that would seek to end the right to U.S. citizenship for children of noncitizens born on U.S. soil, he said in a television interview taped on Monday.

The move, which many legal experts say runs afoul of the Constitution, would be the boldest yet by a president elected to office pledging to take a hard line on immigration, an issue he has revived in advance of next week's midterm elections.

"We're the only country in the world where a person comes in and has a baby, and the baby is essentially a citizen of the United States for 85 years with all of those benefits," Trump said during an interview with Axios scheduled to air as part of a new HBO series starting this weekend. "It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. And it has to end."

Trump, who has long decried "anchor babies," said he has discussed the move with his legal counsel and believes it can be accomplished with executive action, a view at odds with the opinions of many legal scholars.

"It was always told to me that you needed a constitutional amendment. Guess what? You don't," Trump told Axios.

When told that view is disputed, Trump asserted: "You can definitely do it with an act of Congress. But now they're saying I can do it just with an executive order."

"It's in the process. It'll happen . . . with an executive order," he said, without offering a time frame.

The move would be certain to spark a constitutional debate about the meaning of the 14th Amendment. It reads: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”
 

londonfog

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The first line of the 14th Amendment states: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside."


The POTUS is to defend the constitution not override it. If this is the case then he could issue an executive order to bring back slavery. @Rob Roy
Trump is an idiot, so is anyone who follows this fool
 

squarepush3r

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seems fairly straightforward, there is an AND that says the persons must also be subject to the jurisdiction, which illegal aliens arguably are not. Its perfectly within the constitution framework.

 

Buddha2525

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You libtards are dumb as rocks. The 14th amendment was only for giving freed slaves citizenship. The proof is the 1924 Indian Citizenship Act. If the 14th amendment includes everyone born on American soil becomes a citizen, why weren't Indians who were born here for thousands of years before any white man not considered citizens until 1924, and not given the right to vote until 1957?
 

Herb & Suds

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President Donald Trump is planning to sign an executive order that would seek to end the right to U.S. citizenship for children of noncitizens born on U.S. soil, he said in a television interview taped on Monday.

The move, which many legal experts say runs afoul of the Constitution, would be the boldest yet by a president elected to office pledging to take a hard line on immigration, an issue he has revived in advance of next week's midterm elections.

"We're the only country in the world where a person comes in and has a baby, and the baby is essentially a citizen of the United States for 85 years with all of those benefits," Trump said during an interview with Axios scheduled to air as part of a new HBO series starting this weekend. "It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. And it has to end."

Trump, who has long decried "anchor babies," said he has discussed the move with his legal counsel and believes it can be accomplished with executive action, a view at odds with the opinions of many legal scholars.

"It was always told to me that you needed a constitutional amendment. Guess what? You don't," Trump told Axios.

When told that view is disputed, Trump asserted: "You can definitely do it with an act of Congress. But now they're saying I can do it just with an executive order."

"It's in the process. It'll happen . . . with an executive order," he said, without offering a time frame.

The move would be certain to spark a constitutional debate about the meaning of the 14th Amendment. It reads: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”
Yeah but can he do it in a tweet ?:wall::finger:
 

squarepush3r

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You libtards are dumb as rocks. The 14th amendment was only for giving freed slaves citizenship. The proof is the 1924 Indian Citizenship Act. If the 14th amendment includes everyone born on American soil becomes a citizen, why weren't Indians who were born here for thousands of years before any white man not considered citizens until 1924, and not given the right to vote until 1957?
but all those sweet blue votes! Also the delicious thought of breeding out the white race is so tempting! Also, cheap labor for my gardeners, nannies, maids and kitchen workers!
 

Buddha2525

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but all those sweet blue votes! Also the delicious thought of breeding out the white race is so tempting! Also, cheap labor for my gardeners, nannies, maids and kitchen workers!
That's what I find so hilarious about liberals. If the "oppressed" they "care" about voted red and demanded a living wage, libs would want that wall so fast.
 

squarepush3r

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If you are within the borders of the United States, you are subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.
The first part of the Amendment says "All persons born in the United States" which would make the second part redundant if it meant the same thing, So it clearly has a different meaning that legal scholars will have to weight in on.

Also, if you want to see how racists a lot of Democrats really are, just watch them when black voters in the US start talking about voting for Republicans :)
 
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