Two people charged after police seize 14.7 kg of cannabis from home

CLEARVIEW TOWNSHIP, Ont. - Provincial police say two people are facing drug charges after officers seized 14.7 kilograms of dry cannabis from a home in Clearview Township, Ont.

Investigators say they searched a home last week and also seized more than 16,000 unmarked cigarettes.

Police say two men, aged 47 and 54, have been charged with possession of cannabis for the purpose of distributing and selling.

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They're also facing charges of cultivating an illicit cannabis plant, and possession of unmarked cigarettes for sale.

Officers say their investigation is ongoing.



WTF with the plant charge, how can they do that if it is legal to grow 4 plants.

Don’t know where the plant charge came from. No where did I see how many plants they were growing. And it’s legal to grow 4.

Skoal said:

Don’t know where the plant charge came from. No where did I see how many plants they were growing. And it’s legal to grow 4.

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I wonder if the word illicit has anything to do with it. Must be a new charge under the new act. Love to see how they are going to prove genetics. I got some from THC biomed and have been cross breeding all these years and now have my own strains....or at least that's all they have to know.

Ya I believe there's something in the law about only being able to use 'approved' seeds sold by licensed vendors.

I figure if I ever had an issue I could say I found a seed in some of my legally purchased government schwag and grew it out.

I really think it will be one of those rarely enforced laws that are tacked onto other charges to add weight, like we see here...

This is just a guess, but the 2 who were charged likely had just finished or about finished their drying etc.. and remenants of the harvest was still around

On another note, cannabis became legal October 17th and I challenge you to show me even one instance of a grower managing over 14 kg of bud from 4 plants in a little under 4 weeks .... these guys are pooched

If it was this time next year then the prosecutor would have a hard time in court for exactly the reason @Jefferson1977 mentioned above, however the only legal source of seeds or clones at this current junction in time come from LP's and only registered personal production patients have access to them

This means 1 of 2 things, either the cannabis is illicit (in the eyes of the law) since only registered patients have access to legal starting materials at this time or one or both are a medical patient and the coppers got a bit overzealous ... although I bet there was more than the cannabis involved with the search warrant, notice they also found 16000 unmarked cigarettes, likely more shady dealings were involved in this bust

Ya there's clearly alot more than some weed going on here. I highly doubt they're being charged for the actual plants...I don't think the law can be applied retroactively like that.

With the investigation being ongoing I can only assume that they were growing a hell of a lot more than 4 plants.

TacoMac said:

With the investigation being ongoing I can only assume that they were growing a hell of a lot more than 4 plants.

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Investigation ongoing = fishing expedition = the 2 who were arrested were up to more than just growing and bootleg cigarettes

I don't think you know what a fishing expedition is.

In law enforcement, fishing expeditions are illegal. It means you're using a simple violation in order to hopefully stumble upon a larger crime.

That is not what an ongoing investigation is.

They have to catalog everything, inventory everything, test everything, question the suspects and any witnesses, etc. All of that is part of an ongoing investigation.

They've got them dead to rights already on several charges. I wouldn't expect there to be many more charges if any at all, but they'll probably release more details, which I'm sure will include a large, unlicensed illegal growing operation.

beacher said:

Ya I believe there's something in the law about only being able to use 'approved' seeds sold by licensed vendors.

I figure if I ever had an issue I could say I found a seed in some of my legally purchased government schwag and grew it out.

I really think it will be one of those rarely enforced laws that are tacked onto other charges to add weight, like we see here...

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Yeah I agree to that.

Well we know sale of seeeds is still illegal. And yes you do need to purchase your seeds from a LP. How can the government enforce that, not easy. But right now they can cause no LP sells seeds yet.

But yes I do agree, I don’t think they are going to enforce it on poor little me with 4 plants for personal consumption and a hobby.

TacoMac said:

I don't think you know what a fishing expedition is.

In law enforcement, fishing expeditions are illegal. It means you're using a simple violation in order to hopefully stumble upon a larger crime.

That is not what an ongoing investigation is.

They have to catalog everything, inventory everything, test everything, question the suspects and any witnesses, etc. All of that is part of an ongoing investigation.

They've got them dead to rights already on several charges. I wouldn't expect there to be many more charges if any at all, but they'll probably release more details, which I'm sure will include a large, unlicensed illegal growing operation.

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Semantics ... still a fishing expedition

A fishing expedition is pulling a vehicle over for no reason to then search the vehicle which then comes up with something. The intial stop was not justified until something was found.

Skoal said:

A fishing expedition is pulling a vehicle over for no reason to then search the vehicle which then comes up with something. The intial stop was not justified until something was found.

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So have you been arrested and charged with a crime under the CDSA?

I'll give you the cliff notes on what happens .... you get arrested, the evidence is gathered and if the evidence is substantial enough to indicate that there is more than meets the eye then the 'investigation' continues using what they have found (the evidence) and then they start fishing from there .... hence me sayin 'fishing expedition'

If you want to argue the point, be my guest, but I should tell you that you're wasting your time on a meaningless argument that would be better suited on a grammar/spelling forum as compared to a cannabis forum

TacoMac said:

I don't think you know what a fishing expedition is.

In law enforcement, fishing expeditions are illegal. It means you're using a simple violation in order to hopefully stumble upon a larger crime.

That is not what an ongoing investigation is.

They have to catalog everything, inventory everything, test everything, question the suspects and any witnesses, etc. All of that is part of an ongoing investigation.

They've got them dead to rights already on several charges. I wouldn't expect there to be many more charges if any at all, but they'll probably release more details, which I'm sure will include a large, unlicensed illegal growing operation.

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See comment above ... seriously, the point of the comment I made is lost in this focusing on a definition of a term that has many uses

Not a fishing expedition at all. These guys were growing and selling black market weed and smokes and got busted. Unless they have receipts for that 14 kg of weed from a government store, they are guilty.

VIANARCHRIS said:

Not a fishing expedition at all. These guys were growing and selling black market weed and smokes and got busted. Unless they have receipts for that 14 kg of weed from a government store, they are guilty.

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I'm not referring to what they found ... the fact that the investigation is ongoing when they have them dead to rights means the coppers found a bone or two to pick at which in turn means they be doin some digging ... hence the fishing expedition comment

TrainingPineapples said:

I'm not referring to what they found ... the fact that the investigation is ongoing when they have them dead to rights means the coppers found a bone or two to pick at which in turn means they be doin some digging ... hence the fishing expedition comment

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Yeah, same as any other investigation. They'll want to look for links to organized crime, etc. No different if you were caught selling black market booze, guns or lobsters.

A wiseman will listen to what you have to say. A fool will argue.

I could go for a black market lobster tail, fuck lp lobster.

Those box trucks parked at the side of the road with seafood rule! Someone told me they can make a ton of cash doing that.