Ultimate Co2 Controller Solution!

CaptainCAVEMAN

CaptainCAVEMAN

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Spandy- I have my light fans on their own timer(will eventually be a photocell controller) so they aren't plugged into the environmental controller. I have found that even though those 'all in one' controllers are supposed to do it all, sometimes its easier just to put stuff on it's own timer/controller.
 
xivex

xivex

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Spandy,

I have my lights on seperate Intermatic T104 timers so my CHHC-4 doesn't do anything with the lights....and since I'm running a sealed room I wont be plugging anything into the fan "slot" on the CHHC-4. So I can't answer that question...email sentinel and ask...I'd bet they'd answer with more info than you would ever need! :)
 
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spandy

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I was just curious and thought since it was something I ran into before I already purchased my equipment, that maybe someone else would benefit as well, but thanks for the info guys!
 
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Bob Smith

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CaptainCAVEMAN said:
Mountainfarmer- did not hear about that one. Maybe someone who has one will post here. I was warned about water cooled generators wich have a safety shutoff if water flow is not detected. That's great but that means you have to provide steady constant water pressure that always stays the same even though it is turning on and off non-stop. The guy told me after a 3 month long nightmare he bought another regular generator.
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That white box mounted on the wall in-between my Sentinel and my AC is a watercooled CO2 generator - works great.

Drain to waste so I don't need to cool the water with a chiller.

Spandy, you can set your CO2 and cooling to either "split" or............I forget what the other setting is called.

Split means that when your cooling comes on your CO2 automatically shuts off, whereas the "other" setting is for somebody running a sealed room (I do), so my AC and CO2 can both be operating at the same time.
 
CaptainCAVEMAN

CaptainCAVEMAN

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Drain to waste works on the chiller huh...good to know. Sure would like that better than the heat even if the ac can handle it.
 
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medz

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I run a Sentinel CHHC-4. I have one grow with it and it is a fantastic controller. I paid $610 out the door from a local store. I love this thing. It's a total environment controller and it works very well.
 
Stoner Smurf

Stoner Smurf

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Does the Sentinel CHHC-4 just plug in or does it need to be hard wired in?

It has a 15 amp max for all four slots correct? There is one slot for a heater, one slot for an A/C or fan, one slot setup to run either a humidifier or dehumidifier, and one slot for CO2 generator, correct? 15 Amps wouldn't be enough to run both an A/C and a Dehumidifier. I assume A/C units use a lot of electricity, and I know dehumidifiers do.
 
Shankapotomus

Shankapotomus

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Found this thread looking for some info. I just ordered the CHHC-1 along with the Sentinel VCG-6 LP Burner. I have completely redid my flower room to 14x8x9 with 2 1000w HPS on 10' lightrail. I was wondering what the outlets on the controller were rated for. I'll be hooking up a dehumidifier and a 450cfm fan for cooling. I am waaay up North and can pull below freezing air in 7 or 8 months a year.The stuff should arrive any day now and I am wondering if I should go ahead and order an expansion module?
If you guys have any info it would be appreciated.

Found some great prices on ebay from a hydro shop out of Cali paid $500 for the controller and $340 for the burner. My local hydro shop wanted $490 for the burner. This outfit was pretty good to work with as they sent everything USPS and didn't burn me on shipping
 
legallyflying

legallyflying

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Xivex and I are in the same boat. Figured if I'm going to do it the just spend the money to do it right and don't fuck around

I have a CAP XGC-1 and it has worked absolutely flawless. I got it for $400. Crazedlist is your friend :). Took a little trust to paypal a guy in Cali for a controller but I spoke with him on the phone and he seemed like a square guy. Highly suggest the cap models.
 
CaptainCAVEMAN

CaptainCAVEMAN

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Stoner Smurf said:
Does the Sentinel CHHC-4 just plug in or does it need to be hard wired in?

It has a 15 amp max for all four slots correct? There is one slot for a heater, one slot for an A/C or fan, one slot setup to run either a humidifier or dehumidifier, and one slot for CO2 generator, correct? 15 Amps wouldn't be enough to run both an A/C and a Dehumidifier. I assume A/C units use a lot of electricity, and I know dehumidifiers do.
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Shankapotomus

Shankapotomus

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CaptainCAVEMAN said:
Stoner Smurf said:
Does the Sentinel CHHC-4 just plug in or does it need to be hard wired in?

It has a 15 amp max for all four slots correct? There is one slot for a heater, one slot for an A/C or fan, one slot setup to run either a humidifier or dehumidifier, and one slot for CO2 generator, correct? 15 Amps wouldn't be enough to run both an A/C and a Dehumidifier. I assume A/C units use a lot of electricity, and I know dehumidifiers do.
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Had a hour of extra time last night and did some research so I can get my set-up prepared. This is a quote from the directions,

5) The controller requires a 120 volt, 15-amp power supply. Plug the
power cable into a standard Nema 5-15 wall outlet.
6) The devices that will be controlled must be 120 volt & 15-amps or less.
If larger electrical loads need to be controlled, use 1 or more PXMs to expand
the power handling capability of the CHHC-1.

I have to assume that since you are plugging in the unit to 1, 15 amp breaker, then your total load off the unit can't total more than 15, However I never load anything over 75%.
I also found that Sentinel has light controllers as well and will free up some space in my panel so looking at the 240 unit as well for the lights.
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xivex

xivex

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Imho if your looking for the best light controller available go with a powerbox. Powerbox.

http://www.powerboxinc.com/products.html

As for the chhc-4.... Yes it only runs 15 amps total unless you buy pxm modules. My mini split ac is on its own 30amp circuit so not sure what type of ac you could run on a 15 amp shared circuit.... Especially if your running a 70 pint per day dehumidifer.... These typically pull 12-15 amps on their own. Not sure how many amps my titan co2 regulator pulls but i doubt its more than 2 -3 amps. And a typical vent fan is only an amp or two for even the big ones. So just watch your dehum and ac and youll be fine. Might want pxms for those if they are large
 
Shankapotomus

Shankapotomus

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xivex said:
Imho if your looking for the best light controller available go with a powerbox. Powerbox.

http://www.powerboxinc.com/products.html

As for the chhc-4.... Yes it only runs 15 amps total unless you buy pxm modules. My mini split ac is on its own 30amp circuit so not sure what type of ac you could run on a 15 amp shared circuit.... Especially if your running a 70 pint per day dehumidifer.... These typically pull 12-15 amps on their own. Not sure how many amps my titan co2 regulator pulls but i doubt its more than 2 -3 amps. And a typical vent fan is only an amp or two for even the big ones. So just watch your dehum and ac and youll be fine. Might want pxms for those if they are large
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Wow those Power Box units are the shit! If I owned my home I would look that way, however I rent.
Right now I am running 2 1000w HPS each pulling about 9.4a at 120v. In my garage grow I am using 2 120v 15a breakers to power 2 outlets.


To free up both of those 120v breakers I would like to use the 30a 240v breaker at the top right of the panel. About 10' from the box is an outlet that has never been used and is where the other end of the 240 comes out.

The Sentinel HPH-4 Controller would be perfect as I can switch my 120 ballasts over to 240v and wire in the breaker in the box.
I could then plug that into a Sentinel MDT-1 Timer. Sticking with the same manufacturer everything hopefully would play along happily.

I am going to order everything in the next couple days along with a PXM mod or 2. Hopefully my CO2 stuff arrives here shortly and I can start incorporating this stuff.:idea:
 
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Jryan55

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In a little bit of a bind.

I am running the Sentinel CHHC-4 off a tank with 5k watts portable a/c, and dehumitifier. It is ducted well comes from outside of room goes all the way threw and back out of the room.

HERE IS MY PROBLEM:

When lights are on i need can fans on, if im pissing c02 out trying to keep the room at 14-1500ppm arent my lights slowly sucking c02 out? just bite the bullet seal up my lights best i can because the positive pressure from the ac is probably wasting a lot more c02.

This whole sentinel thing continues to catch 22 me...Any one with knowledge want to help me out?
 
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medz

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I run the sentinel CHHC-4. While it does the job, it is definitely behind in ages with the software both on the machine and the computer.

Also the DIN connector for the sniffing is very poorly made. It is 4 electrodes that are soldered. When I opened this up, one wasn't even covered and 2 broke off by simply unscrewing the sniffer.

My grow shop replaced it for me.

Also had a buddy who had his fail. Grow shop replaced it also.
 
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fishwhistle

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CaptainCAVEMAN said:
Glad to hear others like it. I'll only have a couple weeks to take it back if it doesn't work. So far so good, but only 2 days so far. At least the damn thing turns off the co2 generator after lights out.[/QUOTE
How can you sit there and knock the thrive controller when you yourself say that your co2 gen had a faulty valve and would not turn off?Its not really fair to do that,its not apples and apples you know?put your new controller on that fubared generator and see how that does,im sure it will suck just as hard.
Im not supporting the thrive controller as i have no experience with it but you are fucked up for knocking it when the other parts of your system are not working correctly.
By the way i use the cap ppm2a and it has worked great from day one,only thing i dont like about it is the price LOL.I will be buying some sentinel gear soon as ive heard good things and i will posdt up any diferences i find running sxs.
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jdmcwestevo

jdmcwestevo

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Jryan55 said:
In a little bit of a bind.

I am running the Sentinel CHHC-4 off a tank with 5k watts portable a/c, and dehumitifier. It is ducted well comes from outside of room goes all the way threw and back out of the room.

HERE IS MY PROBLEM:

When lights are on i need can fans on, if im pissing c02 out trying to keep the room at 14-1500ppm arent my lights slowly sucking c02 out? just bite the bullet seal up my lights best i can because the positive pressure from the ac is probably wasting a lot more c02.

This whole sentinel thing continues to catch 22 me...Any one with knowledge want to help me out?
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you need to setup your lights to take air from outside your room if you run co2. run a bead of high temp silicone around the glass as well to help seal it and carefully tape the ducting to seal it and expanding foam is your friend with any type of holes you have made in walls. the more you can air tight the room the less co2 will be wasted. the a/c if it is in your room not central will only cool air in that room it will not create positive pressure.
 
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