**ULTIMATE LED TEST** *GLH Spectra 290* VS *Blackstar 500* VS *Hydro Grow LED 336X*

coolj

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[video=youtube;Get852AKRtE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Get852AKRtE[/video]
blackstar 500! I think u should get an advanced ds200 or ds300 and put up against the blackstar 500 for ur next showdown..Posting vidz instead of pics is really cool.
 

coolj

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Im glad i waited a few days to buy my led light, looking at the bls500 i woulda been mad abt the 240..I like the 2 500 or a 500 and some kessils concept..Do u think a 500 beats a 600hps?
 

maxpesh

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Thanks so much for posting all this info, all the Blackstar owners must be rather happy at the moment, but I gotta feel sorry for anyone that has spent money on the very expensive models. However I am well aware that the penetrators have excellent heat sinks but maybe it's just overkill. As long as the heat dissipation is adequate to prevent burn out and colour drift of the led, who cares ! Keep it coming wejuana, ur doing a great job :-)
 

Kaptain Kron

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Im glad i waited a few days to buy my led light, looking at the bls500 i woulda been mad abt the 240..I like the 2 500 or a 500 and some kessils concept..Do u think a 500 beats a 600hps?
probably comes close to equal or slightly less from my personal experience black star needs minimum half the draw of an hps to equal and the bs is barely 300watts draw I would say it would come very close to a 600 of u train properly u may be able to exceed but I would expect similar results

Also the 500 blackstar pulls 300wAtts the 240 pulls 133 jus to clarify numbers
 

Kaptain Kron

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Yea and for 133 watts very impressive I've gotten a qp off of it easily on my first run and my methods were so fucked not to mention health of my plants
 

WeJuana

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I spotted some purple creeping into the tents today!!

You can see it best in the GLH tent with the Spectra because of the whitish hue.

W/ Flash:


Video update coming shortly
 

BatMaN SKuNK

New Member
I've been following this for a while and I am very impressed. I am considering when I finish upgrading and adding more 600w HIDs in my bloom room to hang blackstars between the reflectors. The 900s!
I can't imagine what type of results that will produce.
 

Kaptain Kron

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I've been following this for a while and I am very impressed. I am considering when I finish upgrading and adding more 600w HIDs in my bloom room to hang blackstars between the reflectors. The 900s!
I can't imagine what type of results that will produce.
Ridiculous ones that's jus fuckin insane man i seen what u do already impressive to say the least and 600watt draw blackstars will probably make u rethink hps altogether lol I always wanted to run a 600watt draw blackstar side by side to an hps and watch it blow the hps out of he water lol

In response to plants question I'd rsther not say pretty embarrassing I even let my partner try it that way 29 plants on a 2x3 ebb table lol I got better yield off one plant overcrowding to he extreme let's just forget about that run lol he fucked it off do sick he tossed a keeper mother because he thought it was strain problems not him needless to say he has since been replaced never toss out one o my keeper moms damnit that's ur ass
 

PSUAGRO.

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Awesome vid Wejuana.........This is a great thread for the led community......Keep it up...
be safe and happy growing..:)
 

organicbynature

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Which model of Spectra 290 are you running? Have you seen this post from Irishboy?

Very important info!!!

Mike had some lab test done and he found out the issue, it was the lights just being too power ful for the height spaces most have. these lights are meant to be hung higher like MH and i have been doing. with that being said its not going to really work good for people that can hang them that high as we have seen.. Mike is going to send anyone thats having a issue a new power supply that will power the leds down to a little more then the 2010's models that are proven. this will make ur led power and lumens in between the 2010's and the 2011's. this should clear up all issues from what the lab test have shown. if you are having issues and Do Not have head room contact mike and he will send out new power supply's to all that need them. this will make you able to keep the lights much closer to the plants.. if you have head room and like the extra power and foot print then this is not needed for you guys. the power drawl will be the same as the 2010's but a little more? you will have to talk to Mike about the power drawl details?

the new pannels will be the same specs as the 2010's but added white and no glass i guess they have a new lenses that will make the lights run with no water isses with the glass out?
 

maxpesh

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Which model of Spectra 290 are you running? Have you seen this post from Irishboy?
So basically, what he's saying is that the 290 is outputting more than the Sun at about 15 inches from the canopy (PAR 2000 micromoles). I find that a little difficult to believe, who in their right mind would want to change the power supply to do what it being suggested here, just buy a lower power model if the issue is less height. Not having a go at you organicbynature personally but I wouldn't believe everything you read in company boss statements. Peace bro ;-)
 

organicbynature

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So basically, what he's saying is that the 290 is outputting more than the Sun at about 15 inches from the canopy (PAR 2000 micromoles). I find that a little difficult to believe, who in their right mind would want to change the power supply to do what it being suggested here, just buy a lower power model if the issue is less height. Not having a go at you organicbynature personally but I wouldn't believe everything you read in company boss statements. Peace bro ;-)
I don't know that I *believe* it. But at the same time, if the owner is taking it on himself to send out power supplies to people, that comes at a cost. Why would he do that if it weren't going to make a difference? To simply suspend the bad PR?

It might not make sense and it might not fix the problem, but if this is a qualifying panel why not do it if he's sending out free power supplies? The Spectra is obviously under-performing in this grow but is a respected light from pre-2011 models. The alternate power supply is supposed to be an easy install and you'd end up with both, so you could power up the light if you had a lot of vertical space where you're growing and could hang the lamp up high, and power it down if you don't.

If the light isn't working properly, who in their right mind wouldn't try an easy, free fix? :)

I believe you, Kaptain Kron, that we've been over this ground. I won't bother going back to confirm (and to find out which model this is - I did look at the OP but couldn't tell from there), since I was just making sure this has been looked at.

Incidentally, this light has 160 3W diodes and is supposed to run around 300 watts. A Blackstar 240 has 80 3W diodes and is supposed to run around 133 watts. So...maybe the Spectra really should be powered down.
 
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