**ULTIMATE LED TEST** *GLH Spectra 290* VS *Blackstar 500* VS *Hydro Grow LED 336X*

mohawke said:

Are you a f*cking idiot?
How did someone prove me wrong? Where are the "exact fuxkin LEDs blackstar uses aRe right fuckin there"? Can you show me them on the website?

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I could show you where there at but that would be silly since you posted the link. I found them just fine.

OK - Post the link where you found them?

mohawke said:

OK - Post the link where you found them?

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Go look maybe a little harder I'm not going to hold your fucking hand.

davoswavos said:

Go look maybe a little harder I'm not going to hold your fucking hand.

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Dude - Prove it. Post the link. You have not found them, because Cree do not make the ones the Blackstar uses. You are a lyer. You have not found them, but in attempt to uphold your integrity on this forum, you are saying that you have, when you most certainly have not. Idiot.

plantphotonics leds are cree but i hope to see a grow with these bad boys. Sold on ebay £200 for 70 watts.

and check out www.ledgrow.eu this guy has independent tests showing him grow his herb with the lights he is making and testing.

I've been following that on and off since the beginning not a big fan of his spectrum look at his plants scraggly stretchy growth and to my knowledge and I admit to not reading every page there I have not seen any decent results from his panel at all.

As for the other panel At 700 pounds for a 280watt draw light that's fuckin out of control expensive 1100 dollars for 300ish watts of draw that's approaching penetrator territory no thanks I'd rather build my own using Crees and Luxeon and SETI LEDs which the latter being ass expensive for UVB on the panel if I was going to pay that much and have a more full spectrum than that panel

That being Said I'm sure that panel would perform excellently

Kaptain Kron said:

Wow now he's calling people ignorant buffoons after someone obviously proved him wrong he even proved himself wrong linking Crees website he exact fuxkin LEDs blackstar uses aRe right fuckin there. Not all the LEDs in the blackstar are cree as fuckin stated before.
Ir and uv LEDs in the blackstar panel do not come from cree... The fact u think u can win this argument with a link to crees website is pathetic. Especially when thousands have viewed it and he blackstar and a lot of people on his forum who I hold in much higher regard than u have confirmed that. Go troll somewhere else

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Are you a f*cking idiot?
How did someone prove me wrong? Where are the "exact fuxkin LEDs blackstar uses aRe right fuckin there"? Can you show me them on the website?

Woah. Good morning/afternoon everyone. Popped my head in to see how the thread was rolling..

I'm not making any accusations towards anybody singly, but from now on this a rule: There will be no name calling or personal attacks. If you disagree with what is said, then discuss on the topic that is disagreed upon to hopefully learn something new. Name calling will only put the name called on the defensive state, which inhibits their desire to intake new information and learn. I know most of us here want to learn and have the option to teach as well so please keep to comments directed towards the topic and not the person.

Hmmm... Ok, I'm all for blackstar, but I just checked out growboys.com on dnsstuff.com.

I gotta say, it doesn't look good.

Registrar: FastDomain Inc.
Provider Name....: BlueHost.Com
Provider Whois...: whois.bluehost.com
Provider Homepage: http://www.bluehost.com/

Domain Name: GROWBOYS.COM

Created on..............: 2009-08-02 07:06:33 GMT
Expires on..............: 2012-08-02 07:06:33 GMT
Last modified on........: 2011-08-03 07:06:35 GMT

Registrant Info: (FAST-13908454)

Sean Stockmeyer
57a Lafayette Ave - Suite 4
Suffern, New York 10960
United States
Phone: +1.9146611018
Fax..:
Email: ***********@solosmedia.com
Last modified: 2010-07-27 22:08:48 GMT

Administrative Info: (FAST-13908454)

Sean Stockmeyer
57a Lafayette Ave - Suite 4
Suffern, New York 10960
United States
Phone: +1.9146611018
Fax..:
Email: ***********@solosmedia.com
Last modified: 2010-07-27 22:08:48 GMT

Technical Info: (FAST-12785240)
Bluehost.com
Bluehost Inc
1958 South 950 East
Provo, Utah 84604
United States
Phone: +1.8017659400
Fax..: +1.8017651992
Email: *****@bluehost.com
Last modified: 2010-12-06 18:43:32 GMT

Status: Locked

Domain servers in listed order:

NS1.BLUEHOST.COM
NS2.BLUEHOST.COM
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The owner of growboys registered address is 177ft away from gotham hydroponics.

33 Park Ave
Suffern, New York 10901

and

57a Lafayette Ave - Suite 4
Suffern, New York 10960


Check it out on google maps if you don't believe me....




It LOOKS like Gotham Hydroponics probably "is" Lighthouse Hydro, and they created a site to give themselves an award. I am REALLY damn curious about who makes the LED's in my Blackstar's now.... They still work amazingly for the money, but I feel slightly lied to.




EDIT: Ok, here's the whois for gothamhydroponics.com;

Registrar: FastDomain Inc.
Provider Name....: BlueHost.Com
Provider Whois...: whois.bluehost.com
Provider Homepage: http://www.bluehost.com/

Domain Name: GOTHAMHYDROPONICS.COM

Created on..............: 2010-02-02 23:31:49 GMT
Expires on..............: 2013-02-02 23:31:50 GMT
Last modified on........: 2011-10-26 13:01:08 GMT

Registrant Info: (FAST-12785240)
Bluehost.com
Bluehost Inc
1958 South 950 East
Provo, Utah 84604
United States
Phone: +1.8017659400
Fax..: +1.8017651992
Email: *****@bluehost.com
Last modified: 2010-12-06 18:43:32 GMT

Administrative Info: (FAST-12785240)
Bluehost.com
Bluehost Inc
1958 South 950 East
Provo, Utah 84604
United States
Phone: +1.8017659400
Fax..: +1.8017651992
Email: *****@bluehost.com
Last modified: 2010-12-06 18:43:32 GMT

Technical Info: (FAST-12785240)
Bluehost.com
Bluehost Inc
1958 South 950 East
Provo, Utah 84604
United States
Phone: +1.8017659400
Fax..: +1.8017651992
Email: *****@bluehost.com
Last modified: 2010-12-06 18:43:32 GMT

Status: Locked

Domain servers in listed order:

NS1.BLUEHOST.COM
NS2.BLUEHOST.COM
=-=-=-=

They've both been registered by the same company, at the same address.... hmmm

LINK TO THE MAP SO YOU CAN SEE FOR YOURSELF

mohawke said:

Dude - Prove it. Post the link. You have not found them, because Cree do not make the ones the Blackstar uses. You are a lyer. You have not found them, but in attempt to uphold your integrity on this forum, you are saying that you have, when you most certainly have not. Idiot.

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Keep on trolling lol classic.

Oh and to the above poster about the grow boys award that's been gone over its been a known fact since about 2009 that hat award was a fake. Still doesn't say anything though about who's makin their LEDs and its cree. They did it because heir prices were so much lower than any other working LEDs they had to give themselves some credibility unfortunately it backfired royally in their face. Why don't u contact blackstar Mohawk and tell hen their full of shit instead of trying to prove something u obviously cant

i'll never understand why discussion on plant growing can bring out such nasty behavior and attitude in some people. I'm thankful to all the people who can spread knowledge or even questions thru our growers' community and do it in a civil manner. I'm also an MMA fan (UFC) and i don't even bother with those forums or discussions because its all nasty & trolls. what an odd compulsion to spew hate on strangers online...

Kaptain Kron said:

Keep on trolling lol classic.

Oh and to the above poster about the grow boys award that's been gone over its been a known fact since about 2009 that hat award was a fake. Still doesn't say anything though about who's makin their LEDs and its cree. They did it because heir prices were so much lower than any other working LEDs they had to give themselves some credibility unfortunately it backfired royally in their face. Why don't u contact blackstar Mohawk and tell hen their full of shit instead of trying to prove something u obviously cant

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Unfortunately no one knows, unless someone takes their Blackstar apart and checks to see if CREE LED's were used. (And they know how to differentiate between LED brands).

Don't get me wrong, I love my Blackstars... they work great, but I'm not exactly 100% sure whether CREE LED's were used...

Still lookin for it but someone on this forum has pulled their blackstar apart to build a better hear sync for it they checked and confirmed LEDs Its why I keep sayin they crees besides my countless hours of research on them that's been documented here since my join date and I was researching em even before that too. Unlike some people in here I wont be offended if you tell me I'm wrong and have proof. But people that just spout nonsens off the top of their head with no credibity whatsoever do offend me because it's pointless hate on an led that's doin nothin but good for everyone usin it.

Haters are gonna hate and they are just ginna hate harder if your doin something right

Beefbisquit said:

Unfortunately no one knows, unless someone takes their Blackstar apart and checks to see if CREE LED's were used. (And they know how to differentiate between LED brands).

Don't get me wrong, I love my Blackstars... they work great, but I'm not exactly 100% sure whether CREE LED's were used...

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Kaptain Kron said:

Still lookin for it but someone on this forum has pulled their blackstar apart to build a better hear sync for it they checked and confirmed LEDs Its why I keep sayin they crees besides my countless hours of research on them that's been documented here since my join date and I was researching em even before that too. Unlike some people in here I wont be offended if you tell me I'm wrong and have proof. But people that just spout nonsens off the top of their head with no credibity whatsoever do offend me because it's pointless hate on an led that's doin nothin but good for everyone usin it.

Haters are gonna hate and they are just ginna hate harder if your doin something right

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I think this is the thread you're looking for, though I haven't read through it all myself - Blackstar 240W LED Dissected and Upgraded!

Close but no cigar I thought that was it too there was another guy on here that did it too but he went way into depth

Good link though lol if anyone's wondering about the 80x2w thing in that link I'm pretty sure it was found to be an older model I can't remember it wasn't talked about in that thread

guys PRAKASA makes led lights similar to blackstars, wejuana are you using the flowering or veg light from blackstar? anyone tried them?

davoswavos said:

I could show you where there at but that would be silly since you posted the link. I found them just fine.

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I found the spectrums used in a blackstar light on their website http://www.gothamhydroponics.com/featured-products/blackstar-240w-led-grow-light-3w-cree.html

- Red: 630, 660nm
- Blue: 425nm
- Infrared: 730nm
- Ultraviolet: 380nm
- White: 12000k

but I can't find documentation for any of those spectrums on the cree website. I came close with one of the red's that blackstar uses but that's about it.

http://www.growstealthled.com/Gs600-Quantum-P43C8.aspx

http://www.prakasa.co.uk/

www.ledfusion.co.uk

mohawk is right cree is not used in black star two of my 3 black star pannels died well half the lights anyhow. they are poorly made thats why there cheaper. they work good due to proper angles and spectrum but the lights arwe cheap and there warranty sucks. if you have or use a blackstar always have a back up light you never know when its going to quit

2011 models are different and you couldn't have had one long enough to break.