Uncle Ben's bags

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Drop That Sound

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I'm about to try out this tek, for my first real time growing cubes on my own.

From what I have gathered, the new "bens original" brown rice bags have a higher moisture content now, which means a higher chance of getting wet rot, afaik. It is advised to only use .25 to .5 cc out of your spore syringe, for those that would be doing it that way, as to not add even more moisture than is already there.

I guess people that have the most problems, and lose the most bags, is mostly because they inject to much solution. Just wanted to give heads up, not that uncle bens won't work good.. Suppose that means one good syringe could noc up like 20 bags, which sounds good to me.

Many are reporting better results with store brand versions, like target, safeway, and kroger's 90 second rice brands for example. They are drier from the start, and more ideal to use for this purpose because of it.

I'm going to be using the Kroger brand, and heard its the best. Cheaper too. Been grabbing an 8 pack every time I go to the store (box and all), until I can afford a new PC. Im gonna go big, with about 40 bags (hoping for 32 good ones), using 2 syringes for my first try. I'm not gonna fiddle around touching them all the time, or break and shake them up outside a flow hood either, as some contam seems to happen from messing with the GE holes and tape like people do.


I noticed they have UB family size 2 1/2 minute microwave bags now.. 17.3oz which are basically 2 regular sized bags worth, and equal to a full quart of spawn once colonized. I haven't seen any brown whole grain versions yet, but some people have, and using it fine. Seems it would be better to do one inoculation vs doing 2 IMO.

I have a lot of hope that it will go well, and glad to have come across this method ;)
 
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Budget Buds

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Drop That Sound said:
I'm about to try out this tek, for my first real time growing cubes on my own.

From what I have gathered, the new "bens original" brown rice bags have a higher moisture content now, which means a higher chance of getting wet rot, afaik. It is advised to only use .25 to .5 cc out of your spore syringe, for those that would be doing it that way, as to not add even more moisture than is already there.

I guess people that have the most problems, and lose the most bags, is mostly because they inject to much solution. Just wanted to give heads up, not that uncle bens won't work good.. Suppose that means one good syringe could noc up like 20 bags, which sounds good to me.

Many are reporting better results with store brand versions, like target, safeway, and kroger's 90 second rice brands for example. They are drier from the start, and more ideal to use for this purpose because of it.

I'm going to be using the Kroger brand, and heard its the best. Cheaper too. Been grabbing an 8 pack every time I go to the store (box and all), until I can afford a new PC. Im gonna go big, with about 40 bags (hoping for 32 good ones), using 2 syringes for my first try. I'm not gonna fiddle around touching them all the time, or break and shake them up outside a flow hood either, as some contam seems to happen from messing with the GE holes and tape like people do.


I noticed they have UB family size 2 1/2 minute microwave bags now.. 17.3oz which are basically 2 regular sized bags worth, and equal to a full quart of spawn once colonized. I haven't seen any brown whole grain versions yet, but some people have, and using it fine. Seems it would be better to do one inoculation vs doing 2 IMO.

I have a lot of hope that it will go well, and glad to have come across this method ;)
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Great value brand is the best I've ever seen as far as lack of moisture
 
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Does it have clear window on the bottom?

I was gonna go to WM and check them out, but read some bad comments. People finding black mold in the pouches right from the factory. Some didn't find out until they were eating it, haha.

I guess that could happen with any brand, but there's like 10 comments about it, and turned me away..
 
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Budget Buds

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Drop That Sound said:
Does it have clear window on the bottom?

I was gonna go to WM and check them out, but read some bad comments. People finding black mold in the pouches right from the factory. Some didn't find out until they were eating it, haha.

I guess that could happen with any brand, but there's like 10 comments about it, and turned me away..
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If the bags were compromised, I could see it happen, you have to give the bags a very good examination when buying them, if the bags aren't totally tight like a vacuum sealed compressed then I wouldn't buy them. the ones I got to fuck around with did not have any window, it was all white or colored and not see through.

I messed with them for a bit and never had any contam but it's just as easy to do a mono tub honestly.
 
rkymtnman

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Budget Buds said:
but it's just as easy to do a mono tub honestly
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do you have a link to how to do a mono tub? or a better question would be "what is the most foolproof method for a 1st timer?"

i picked out some syringes based on being easy to grow varieties that can handle "improper" conditions better than others.
 
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My only concern at this point is contam in the spore syringes themselves, and that I haven't made any agar to test them first. I guess I should try it on a few bags first, instead of doing 40 at once..

I added a package of MEA agar mix to my shopping cart, but maybe its just better/cheaper to use a few UB bags to test with.
 
rkymtnman

rkymtnman

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Drop That Sound said:
My only concern at this point is contam in the spore syringes themselves, and that I haven't made any agar to test them first. I guess I should try it on a few bags first, instead of doing 40 at once..

I added a package of MEA agar mix to my shopping cart, but maybe its just better/cheaper to use a few UB bags to test with.
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the place i bought them from encourages "scientists" to do an agar test to prove how good their product is under a scope
 
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I'm gonna do the same as the video above, but with 4 shoeboxes per 110qt tub. Put the bulk shoe boxes right in a modded tub, with 2-3 UB bags worth of spawn in each one. I'm gonna try for a more even 1:1.5 ratio of spawn to buket tek pasteurized coir, to make things go faster, and increase the odds. UB tek seems like the easiest way, and what I settled on for my first time. Unless you count the time i helped a buddy do pf tek BS years ago, with all kinds of methods that are way outdated now days...
 
rkymtnman

rkymtnman

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Drop That Sound said:
I'm gonna do the same as the video above, but with 4 shoeboxes per 110qt tub. Put the bulk shoe boxes right in a modded tub, with 2-3 UB bags worth of spawn in each one. I'm gonna try for a more even 1:1.5 ratio of spawn to buket tek pasteurized coir, to make things go faster, and increase the odds. UB tek seems like the easiest way, and what I settled on for my first time. Unless you count the time i helped a buddy do pf tek BS years ago, with all kinds of methods that are way outdated now days...
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for the coir, i'm guessing you just toast it in an oven to sterilize?
 
rkymtnman

rkymtnman

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You just expand the bricks in a bucket with boiled water, and let it sit over night. Make sure its at field capacity before mixing with the spawn.

I think 4 bags of UB would be exactly a quart. 1000 grams right?
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i thought 1 bag was like 14 oz? so 2 would be almost a quart? or is that not correct?
 
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The family size bags are 17.3 ounce, but I haven't bought any because they are plain white jasmine or basmati kind or something. The regular 90 second bags are 250g, or 8.8 oz.
 
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I would rather inject 2 family size bags to get my full quart than 4 smaller bags, but its too late and I've already stocked up on boxes of the smaller ones.

I'm gonna start with 8 qts, or 32 bags, and hope for the best.
 
keifcake

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Drop That Sound said:
You just expand the bricks in a bucket with boiled water, and let it sit over night. Make sure its at field capacity before mixing with the spawn.

I think 4 bags of UB would be exactly a quart. 1000 grams right?
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You're thinking about a 1000ml being a quart

1000 grams is a kilo
 
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Hmm, I don't know if this is right, considering were talking grains and not liquid. Looking more like 3 bags equals almost a full quart.
 
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Since home mycology was banned, philly golden teacher is the next best thing to mycology info on youtube ..... Yeah I know home mycology is back but he isnt in the same class this time around.
 
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