Uncle Ben's Topping Technique to Get 2 or 4 Main Colas

Uncle Ben · Mar 13, 2009

born2killspam said:
Take a look at the pic I linked to in post 296.. If done 'properly' as per that pic, you're just missing the actual node..

Above or below?

monkz said:
hey UB how my plants are 5weeks in veg, thanx for all the help btw,
i topped them like you said so how much longer do i wait till i flower coz they look small now since theres only 2 nodes..
will the yield be small if i flower now?

Your call like merahoon said. The more the foliage, the more the bud.

UB

cca580 · Mar 14, 2009

WOW.. guys.. this is by far the best and most informative post / thread line i have read (and i read a lot) the multitude of topics touched on and the simple and precise explanations are above and beyond. I have grown in the past with different methods .. soil / hydro , indoors / outdoors .. and will be again in the future.

UB and born2killspam wow.. thanks for your patients and more from the repeat questions .. I just finished reading every post from page one to thirty three .. you guys rock . and everyone else here who has posted some great ideas and information. By far one of the best threads

born2killspam · Mar 14, 2009

If done according to the pic you're cutting just above the youngest developed node.. You aren't actually removing a node, only the apical meristem.. This allows the four new outputs from the two youngest nodes to grow, and prevents the spacing growth between those two youngest nodes from developing..
Topping at the second node is different in the sense that the internode distance was given an opportunity to develop, your colas grow from two distinct levels..

Uncle Ben · Mar 15, 2009

cca580 said:
WOW.. guys.. this is by far the best and most informative post / thread line i have read (and i read a lot) the multitude of topics touched on and the simple and precise explanations are above and beyond. I have grown in the past with different methods .. soil / hydro , indoors / outdoors .. and will be again in the future.

Nice bunch of folks, eh? Thanks for playing along.

UB and born2killspam wow.. thanks for your patients...

So far this old doc has had no lawsuits. Can't raise 'em from the dead, just a dose of experience based on no-spin is all it takes.

..... and more from the repeat questions .. I just finished reading every post from page one to thirty three .. you guys rock . and everyone else here who has posted some great ideas and information. By far one of the best threads

Wow! That's alot of reading! Here's more if ya got the stomach. I'll not get into the nasty politics of what went down, just refer you to this thread for informational purposes only. My approach is simply stated in post #2.
https://www.planetganja.com/highsociety/showthread.php?t=33786

Make it a great day......

Uncle Ben · Mar 15, 2009

born2killspam said:
If done according to the pic you're cutting just above the youngest developed node.. You aren't actually removing a node, only the apical meristem.. This allows the four new outputs from the two youngest nodes to grow, and prevents the spacing growth between those two youngest nodes from developing..
Topping at the second node is different in the sense that the internode distance was given an opportunity to develop, your colas grow from two distinct levels..

Well said brudder, thanks for the input.

UB

born2killspam · Mar 15, 2009

Thats why I was so impressed with your height uniformity on your 4 cola tops.. I couldn't tell which were from the upper node, and which were from the first node..

Uncle Ben · Mar 15, 2009

born2killspam said:
Thats why I was so impressed with your height uniformity on your 4 cola tops.. I couldn't tell which were from the upper node, and which were from the first node..

I have done this a bunch of times and have found that the end results (size and finished colas height) are pretty uniform. For starts, when you do da dirty deed (repeat dat 10 times) da internodes of node 1 and 2 are usually only inches apart, plus the apical dominance thingie aka "distribution of the auxins" is also very uniform. That translates into simultaneous foliar output from the two node sites. You would think that node #2 would automatically be the dominant point on the plant but it doesn't work out that way.

GrowingGreenGiant · Mar 15, 2009

im high as poop right now and i tried to read your reply, honestly i have no idea what you just said.

born2killspam · Mar 15, 2009

Uncle Ben said:
I have done this a bunch of times and have found that the end results (size and finished colas height) are pretty uniform. For starts, when you do da dirty deed (repeat dat 10 times) da internodes of node 1 and 2 are usually only inches apart, plus the apical dominance thingie aka "distribution of the auxins" is also very uniform. That translates into simultaneous foliar output from the two node sites. You would think that node #2 would automatically be the dominant point on the plant but it doesn't work out that way.

How diverse is your strain experience with this??

born2killspam · Mar 15, 2009

GrowingGreenGiant said:
im high as poop right now and i tried to read your reply, honestly i have no idea what you just said.

Proper botanical jargon really does help to get a point across.. Its tough to find a happy medium that properly defines the anatomy, and is understandable to everybody..
But the terms are easy to google, and knowing them really helps when you're trying to pull usable info from scientific sources etc..

Uncle Ben · Mar 15, 2009

born2killspam said:
How diverse is your strain experience with this??

Pure sativa (Zamal and Dalat Vietnamese) to hybrids. Plant response is the same.

oldMcDonald · Mar 18, 2009

i got a question about the nodes, when u say "true" nodes, what makes them true?

born2killspam · Mar 18, 2009

If you know what a node is (bulbous areas where branching occurs), then all nodes are true except the very lowest where those rounded seedling leaves grew.. The first true node is next above that..

oldMcDonald · Mar 18, 2009

k, thats what i assumed, but just had to make sure so i get 4 colas

monkz · Mar 20, 2009

yo UB,
iv started growing Snow White, theyre currently sprouting in peat pots,
i was wondering if white strains respond well to topping?
and btw i topped my big bud plant so that i get 16 tops, well see what happens when i put it in flowering

Uncle Ben · Mar 21, 2009

monkz said:
yo UB,
iv started growing Snow White, theyre currently sprouting in peat pots,
i was wondering if white strains respond well to topping?

Strain doesn't matter. If it's cannabis, it will do it to it.

and btw i topped my big bud plant so that i get 16 tops, well see what happens when i put it in flowering

You'll get a bushy plant consisting of alot of small colas, not 4 main colas.

As an aside, how big are those peat pots and are they the kind with thin walls or chunky?

Have fun,
UB

monkz · Mar 21, 2009

they the ones with thin walls, so to get the best response im assuming its just topping to get 4 colas then?

GrowingGreenGiant · Mar 22, 2009

16 colas, jesus. too bad they're goin to be hella small

Uncle Ben · Mar 23, 2009

monkz said:
they the ones with thin walls, so to get the best response im assuming its just topping to get 4 colas then?

Not sure what the question is.

merahoon · Mar 24, 2009

Is there a link that you have that can send me somewhere talking about plant hormonal responses?

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