Uncle Ben's Topping Technique to Get 2 or 4 Main Colas

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bigboyfly713

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Hey everyone, im new to growing and in the same boat as Valhalla88. i think it is about 25 days into vegging wanting to know when to cut, how to cut, where to cut to get 4 colas. Please help. I have pics in my album. Feel free to add as a friend anyone that can help me.
 

DaveCoulier

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How about you read the first few pages of this thread and learn something? This thread isn't so you can come in and ask how to do it when its been answered a million times already. Stop being lazy and expecting everyone is gonna spoon feed you information that is readily available if you actually read the threads.

Now if you read the first few pages and are still confused, then by all means feel free to ask someone to clarify it for you, and we'll gladly help you out.

Btw, I looked at your profile and didn't see any albums..Where are the pics?
 

valhalla88

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Awesome being here and glad to have another cool uncle...
so I am learning so much so fast that my retention is definitely getting flexed.
Anyway so I'm in Iowa and good smoke gets a little pricey...I got lucky and found a seed here and there..(expensive fuckers)
I get one germinated and transplanted...starts giving me trouble @ seed leaves...start drying and yellowing... under floros! so I panic &get on here . a couple complete strangers advise me and BAM REBOUND! Please add me and take a look @ my albums . I'm growing only the one and then going to cut @ 2nd true node...sound familiar?lol
With you and some mutual friends ...I believe this grow will harvest smoke better then how I bought it.(I hope)..And be the best it can be...
.....ya know the bud in my profile pic???....That is where the seed came from....
 

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valhalla88

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How about you read the first few pages of this thread and learn something? This thread isn't so you can come in and ask how to do it when its been answered a million times already. Stop being lazy and expecting everyone is gonna spoon feed you information that is readily available if you actually read the threads.

Now if you read the first few pages and are still confused, then by all means feel free to ask someone to clarify it for you, and we'll gladly help you out.

Btw, I looked at your profile and didn't see any albums..Where are the pics?
I've read and researched and am not asking for anything I just asked if I could post some pics and to say I liked UNCLE BENS...thread with the pics to HELP people.
How rude dude.I asked a legitimate question on maturity..because each strain differs..I have lots of intrnode and node growth...lots and I'm on my sixth node ...not stretched ...the plant is extremely healthy...especialli from how it started...anyway...thought it might be a bit different then your everyday whatever...
 

Jack in the Bud

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Morn'n UB,

I'm at day 30 since SID. On day 27 I clipped everything above the second node. Most plants had 5 opposing nodes (some with the sixth one begining to show) but all had at least 4 (with the beginnings of a fifth). One interesting thing I noticed was that even before pinching about half of the plants had some pretty good secondary branches already forming at the first and second nodes while the other half only had just the tinniest indication that something was forming there. There was quite a distinct difference between these two groups.

I was wondering at what point you begin considering feeding with some additional ferts? I know I could wait until the plant starts indicating it wants more by having the leaves yellow (or develope other problems) bur I'd kind of like to avoid any of that all together. In other words preventative feeding instead of damage control or corrective action.

I've already given them all a little taste of the Alaskan Fish Fertilizer (@1TBS/gallon) when I watered them on day 19. That hasn't appeared to have hurt them as far as I can tell.

Also I've been reading on the various J.R. Peters Web sites. Particularly http://www.jacksclassic.com/ . I was wondering what your recomendation would be for one of the specific products found on these pages. I've been checking my local retail sources and haven't been able to find any of the Peter's products so I'm gonna have to do a mail order. Do you have any particular web based businesses you could recommend for that?

I checked the PH of that potting soil mix I made up and it's reading a nice neutral 7. I do however know from past experience that due to the alkalinity of my well water that by the end of the grow it will most likely have crept up to where it gets to be around 8. In the past I've tried to bring this back down with Aluminum Sulfate additions to the watering.

I've got a small commercial green house right down the road from me that supplies a lot of the vegatable and flower plants for local gardeners in the Spring. In talking with the owner I found out that she uses an acid based fertilizer as a method of counteracting the general alkalinity of the water in our area. Being as this woman always has some very healthy, strong and vibrant plants to sell every Spring I figure she must know what she's talking about. I should have just bought some of it while I was there so I had it on hand (or at least written the name down) but I didn't and now unfortunetly she's closed for the Winter. Do you have any thoughts on the acid based ferts? I've noticed that Peter's has some of them.

O.K. I'm begining to ramble on so......

(Kirk out)

Jack
 

valhalla88

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Hello UB been awhile since Ive been on...kinda stressful ...I made my cut :oand tied down some branches to get some thicker growth . Here are some pictures from this morning...
I have researched and the best answer I can come up with is that where I made my cut...I should get two new :leaf::leaf:branches for two more colas if this correct ...according to my research ...this should take a week to see the cut heal or grow??? any indications if I FUDGED it?:sad:
Again any comments appreciated...Thanks Uncle Ben...:clap:

https://www.rollitup.org/members/valhalla88-194212/albums/after-cut-tie-down-9706/
 

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Jack in the Bud

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Hello UB been awhile since Ive been on...kinda stressful ...I made my cut :oand tied down some branches to get some thicker growth . Here are some pictures from this morning...
I have researched and the best answer I can come up with is that where I made my cut...I should get two new :leaf::leaf:branches for two more colas if this correct ...according to my research ...this should take a week to see the cut heal or grow??? any indications if I FUDGED it?:sad:
Again any comments appreciated...Thanks Uncle Ben...:clap:

https://www.rollitup.org/members/valhalla88-194212/albums/after-cut-tie-down-9706/

val,

Nice looking plant man. I'm expecting mine to be looking like that here in another week or so. Just curious but how many days old is that plant?

Unless I'm seriously mis-understanding something I don't think you'll be getting any new branches. You've already got them, they're the ones you've got tied down. Cutting the plant where you did is just going to cause them to become a main cola and not remain a lower secondary branch lower down on the plant like they would have if you hadn't cut it where you did.

Jack
 

valhalla88

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val,

Nice looking plant man. I'm expecting mine to be looking like that here in another week or so. Just curious but how many days old is that plant?

Unless I'm seriously mis-understanding something I don't think you'll be getting any new branches. You've already got them, they're the ones you've got tied down. Cutting the plant where you did is just going to cause them to become a main cola and not remain a lower secondary branch lower down on the plant like they would have if you hadn't cut it where you did.

Jack
It is 36 days old...I had some initial problems as a seedling ...once it received the proper lighting...it took off..
I am expecting more then 4 colas possibly 6-8...
I topped it above the third node after 8 nodes of growth, than went back and
I have new branches under the canopy now about 3" long .Thats a inch a day... and it has poked through the other branches and is seeking the light !!!!:clap:
 

Jack in the Bud

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It is 36 days old...I had some initial problems as a seedling ...once it received the proper lighting...it took off..
I am expecting more then 4 colas possibly 6-8...
I topped it above the third node after 8 nodes of growth, than went back and
I have new branches under the canopy now about 3" long .Thats a inch a day... and it has poked through the other branches and is seeking the light !!!!:clap:
val,

Interesting. My plants are at 30 days.

I don't know about the advisability of going for more than 4 main colas. There's got to be a point of dimishing return in there some where, where while you may get more colas they won't be the nice fat ones like we're all on a quest for.

I've got the feeling that if it were feasable to make one plant grow more than 4 main colas uncle ben would already be doing it. It'll be interesting to see what he thinks.

So how long do you think it will be before you switch to 12/12 to begin flowering? I'm just guessing at this point but I'm thinking mine will be vegging for another 2 to 3 weeks before I switch to 12/12.

jack
 

valhalla88

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I have no idea I have never grown ever in my life.
Maybe it's not for me...IDK but I thought I'd give it a try ...I'm definitely not trying to win any cups ...
I read a bit here and a bit there ...I guess this is my attempt by reading and thinking ...is to top my plant from further growth along the stalk ...main stem .....hell...see I don't even know a branch from a leaf...lol...so that growth will be distributed throughout the plant....which I have seen ....I also have read posts concerening LST which can give you thirty colas on one plant .Now I cannot say my 6-8 will work I have no idea funny you mention it. I've read and studied and never grown so we will see... some start to flower by keeping in mind how big they want their plant being at harvest...so if its a foot growth into flowering you can expect a 2 to 3' plant....
I have no clue wish I knew so veg until I know
here is a plant with lots of colas not sure if they topped it at the second node or not https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/251604-blueberry-lst-closet-grow-6.html
 

Jack in the Bud

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Fuck oh dear man. It's -27 degrees out side where I'm at. Had to add a space heater to the grow room just to keep it in the low 70's.

Jack
 
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