Uncle Ben's Topping Technique to Get 2 or 4 Main Colas

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NavySupra said:
So now I will add a C02 generator and upgrade my cabinet later this year...
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I think you're wasting your time and money on the CO2 thingie. Whatever....if you do inject CO2, you must meter it and have the right ppm's dialed in relative to lumens and temp and the overall health of the plant. IMO, you'll do much better if you forget the CO2 drill and really delve into plant culture.

Good luck,
UB
 
Uncle Ben said:
I think you're wasting your time and money on the CO2 thingie. Whatever....if you do inject CO2, you must meter it and have the right ppm's dialed in relative to lumens and temp and the overall health of the plant. IMO, you'll do much better if you forget the CO2 drill and really delve into plant culture.

Good luck,
UB
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Last time I used a 4L milk jug with yeast+water and there was a noticeable increase in growth with my super cheap DIY C02 gen. Seeing as I want to make some blackberry wine this year I'll use the wine to supplement my C02 for the plants.

Yes you are correct, there is still so much more for me to learn about plant culture, as you put it.
 
doesnt that wine supposed to be put in a DARK cellar? when you put things in a warm area, they tend to get warm. so like youre screwing your wine cuz you wanna get more co2 into your tent.
 
Flyboy420 said:
doesnt that wine supposed to be put in a DARK cellar? when you put things in a warm area, they tend to get warm. so like youre screwing your wine cuz you wanna get more co2 into your tent.
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Instead of having the one way check valve(water bong essentially) on the jug, I will use a length of food grade hose to pipe the c02 into the checkvalve that would be located in the grow area. This would keep my wine away from direct light and heat.
 
I've been searching for an answer, maybe Im asking the wrong question. Please bear with me, to understand the question I have to explain a bit, This is my first grow, I should start a grow journal to list all of the mistakes I have made.:wall:

Thanks Uncle Ben, Based on some basic advice 38 days later I have 12 seeds that turned into 12 healthy plants; green, good root ball etc. I've topped 4 at the second node after they had 6 nodes. The others I will top as they come along. Here is my issue, What should be my plan to sex the male plants. I was originally thinking of sexing the tops (Im trying to clone them) but when will they be healthy enough (Its been 3 days since they have been rooted)

The other thought is with my limited space and the cost of keeping 12 plants going, should I turn them over to flowering, once I know the sex bring them back to veg state to get a little bigger.

what Im looking for is a suggestion on a recommended strategy to sex male plants when planting from seed
 
NavySupra said:
Instead of having the one way check valve(water bong essentially) on the jug, I will use a length of food grade hose to pipe the c02 into the checkvalve that would be located in the grow area. This would keep my wine away from direct light and heat.
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:lol: Hmm interesting - I wonder if beer does the same thing, may have to investigate in starting a second hobby. But at this point in my naive growing career I have to agree with Uncle Ben, Get the basics down to grow a healthy plant. I mean hell even my tomatos died outdoors - I like my new gardening hobby - may even be able to produce some food from it
 
Consetia said:
what Im looking for is a suggestion on a recommended strategy to sex male plants when planting from seed
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You can bag a branch for 10 days making sure there is absolutely NO light leakage or go 12/12 and return to veg if they're too small at that point or keep on going until you confirm sex via pre-flowers.

Good luck,
UB
 
Consetia said:
:lol: Hmm interesting - I wonder if beer does the same thing, may have to investigate in starting a second hobby. But at this point in my naive growing career I have to agree with Uncle Ben, Get the basics down to grow a healthy plant. I mean hell even my tomatos died outdoors - I like my new gardening hobby - may even be able to produce some food from it
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Beer would also make C02 as it uses yeast to ferment if I remember correctly.

We(my wife and I) have been fairly successful growing food under the lights, and starting plants like brocolli under the lights and then moving them outside to the garden. Something kinda neat about eating a salad you grew in your closet....

As far as the reefer, we're still somewhat hit or miss but getting hits more often and a better understanding of our plants everyday...
 
I've heard about people running a line from their water heater and/or pilot lights to get CO2.

I have a tank. I turn off my AC and run the tank. In winter the temp is about 80F. If it gets too hot, I turn off the tank and run the AC. This is all done manually. My partners like CO2 and I jump throw their hoops... I like heavy ventilation. I am in Southern California and live near the coast, the outside climate is really nice and don't really even need AC most of the days.
 
Holy crap, this has been one LONG thread!! It's taken me over a week to read it all, staying up til 3 am a few nights but it's certainly been worth it. I just can't get over the lazy turds that were too sorry to even read past the first post. How many times did I see "where is the 2nd node?" or "Can I do this to autos?" Gee whiz. I'm greatful for UB's pinch hitters that helped him out so much. I'm sure that gave him some respite to do some honey-dos.

Just planted 99 seeds yesterday and they are out in the sun today, just waiting to breech the soil. I normally do the paper towel germ thing but I decided to trust UB on this one too. I'm all in for Uncle Ben.
 
Uncle Ben said:
As mentioned several times in this thread, you will not get 4 main colas on alternating nodes, they must be opposite.

Good luck anyway,
UB
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well its 50/50 so far, sorta...4 have started to grow 4 main colas and 2 have 3 main, 2 have 2 main and 1 of them grew 1 new main cola. They all growing very good ;)

So what should I do w those growing 3 or 2 or 1 new cola? It's the top node that is growing "best", should I cut of branches at the first node for more growth in the 2 or 3 tops?

Thx! //CaL
 
PANGcake said:
well its 50/50 so far, sorta...4 have started to grow 4 main colas and 2 have 3 main, 2 have 2 main and 1 of them grew 1 new main cola. They all growing very good ;)

So what should I do w those growing 3 or 2 or 1 new cola? It's the top node that is growing "best", should I cut of branches at the first node for more growth in the 2 or 3 tops?

Thx! //CaL
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are you growing from seed?
 
PANGcake said:
well its 50/50 so far, sorta...4 have started to grow 4 main colas and 2 have 3 main, 2 have 2 main and 1 of them grew 1 new main cola. They all growing very good ;)

So what should I do w those growing 3 or 2 or 1 new cola? It's the top node that is growing "best", should I cut of branches at the first node for more growth in the 2 or 3 tops?

Thx! //CaL
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Leave it alone.

zenopious said:
Thanks uncle ben
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You're welcome!
 
Uncle Ben said:
Selecting the point for topping to get 4 main colas -

To get 4 main colas, let your seedling or cutting (clone) grow to about 5-6 nodes and pinch out (cut) the stem just above the 2nd true node. The node where the cotyledons attach doesn't count. The result will be a redistribution of the auxins and other hormones that normally collect in the tissue of the terminal leader's tip. These ho moans will be redistributed to dormant buds that reside in the nodal axis where the leaf petiole attaches to the "trunk", below the cut. The new foliar output response will be quick (within 24 hrs., see photo below) if you have a healthy growing seedling and will be your future main colas - 4 instead of the usual 1:

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Any questions, fire away.
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Keeping everything you said constant/as is, if I topped above the 3rd node instead of above the 2nd, would I get 6-8 colas instead of 4?
 
Great story but I think he must have meant to post it somewhere else. BTW, Fairbanks, AK does not have "forests", LOL. They have tundra, tiaga, muskeg and water, lots and lots of water - but no forests.
 
The schmuck posted that story 7 different times on this forum. I reported his ass; that's spamming and abuse. Sick 'em mods!
 
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