Under A Cabin In The Woods of AK - AUH#2, White Rhino, Carolina, and MTU.

I like this picture, I was smoking last years outdoor crop of an Alaskan strain in the hammer on the left, and widow from the blue bowl on the right.

The other photos were just taken in the dark. The flash really shows true color. There is little purple undertone when the HPS is off. You may notice however there is a tint of yellowing on the edges of the leaf due to a nute issue. This has also changed the color of the inner part of the leaf which tends to look that purple shade when under red/orange lighting.

Woodsman, I am loving the shots taken in the dark, that spread through that screen is looking very seductive. I am going to throw some pics of my current setup in with this post. I have been playing with the idea of grabbing a 400 or 430 watt HPS for this one. The area is 36" w x 48" h x7' l . I am currently using only half of it, as I had a bunch of clones rooting in the extra space to go outside. The setup I have for growing is a concept taken from the user Natmoon. It is simply a 10" water basket pot with aquarium tubing run into a sponge and connected to an air pump. The idea is to constantly feed O2 to the root ball, makes it nearly impossible to over water once good root base has been established. Anyway, you will see I have started training the two outer plants. The one in the middle somehow knows what I want and is growing 4 tops horizontally on its own... Let me know what you think. I was planning on keeping the Flouros for the sake of being able to slam them onto the screen. The rate light intensity dissipates over distance is so dramatic that I can't find any major benefits to using HPS unless it is used in a stadium grown in the vertical position. Anyway, before I clutter this thing up let me post some pics for ya!!

Hey there Boulderheads,

Looking good. Purdy slick. How does that sponge look at the end of the grow? I would suspect that it collects salts. Any problems with it? If so, you could use that same idea but switch to a piece of pumice. Very neat.

The plants look wonderful! They will do great for a Scrog!

How many watts of light are you planning on flowering with? I am not sure I can agree that there is no benefit to the HPS, however there is no problem sticking with floro's if you desire. I would be sure to pump the lumens up for flowering of course. I think your going to do just fine. I look forward to seeing more.

As for the idea behind light casting on a flat plane vs. stadium as you mention. I have to agree that there is a difference in foot print that the lights produce, however the "wasted" light difference between the two is more or less determined by bulb shape and reflector. The rest is controlled by you (dissipation by distance). What I would be more concerned with in your set up, is heat dissipation. If it’s a problem, then of course the lighting you have makes more sense. What size of Scrog do you plan on lighting?

That is a good idea, I never thought about the sponge holding in a bunch of salts. This is only my 2nd grow, but the first time the sponge was filled with roots that had grown through it. Did not have any nutrient trouble last time either, everything worked out pretty well for a first timer under fluoros.

The scrog will be 4x3 using the 3 plants you saw in my previous picture. I planned to have 4 of those shoplights each holding 2X32watt T8 tubes producing 2600 lumens each. The theory is that lumens are not added together so I do not have a 20,000 lumen setup, rather the 2600 lumens from each bulb is very close to the foilage and evenly distributed over the whole canopy. Whereas 1 HPS unless it is on a light mover will dissipate greatly in the corners of the scrog.

Using this setup I will be able to provide light evenly across the whole canopy. The lights practically sit on the screen as the temps from the bulbs are cool to the touch.

Still not completely ruling out the HPS upgrade... just like to do things the hard way first, ya know?

Anyway, this post is getting long, check out some of my outdoor Rhinos, big ones been outside for 3 weeks now from 8 inch clones. The small ones went out a week ago. This ones for you

Well Great! Those look like they are taking very well. I see the jungle like vegetation and palm furans; you must be in a warm climate. I know there is quite a diverse population of pests in those warmer climates, how do make out with keeping your plants pest free? They look like there is no such thing! LOL
Good job!~

I always say don’t mess with success, so if your not having a problem with the sponge I wouldn’t change it. What you could do however, is run a test with something else and a control. If you do, you should journal the test. I would be interested in seeing it, and I would bet your buddy that designed it for you would as well.

THE WORD:

A good buddy of mine had me over for bong loads and wild berries. It was wonderful. He then surprised me with some clones he got for me!!! What a pal!

The clones are of Jacks Cleaner and Sweet Tooth #2.

He also offerd me a Rhino and BC bud clone, but declined.

I snapped a few photos and thought I would share. They are going to be living under a sink for a while, but I will get them later this summer and Scrog them both. I look forward to sharing the project with you all!

I tossed in a picture of his bong and bud that we enjoyed. BTW

Comments welcome!

The pest issue I hope manages itself. I take my dogs with me and make sure they get their scent everywhere, and I am not sure what to do about bugs and such once the budding starts. This is the first attempt outdoors, and I am doing this guerrilla style. I live on the 40 degrees north latitude. The vegetation you see grows annually. The terrain has been flooded out many times in the past 50 years and has sandy fertile soil. Lies right next to a fairly wide creek. The vegetation surrounding the patches is nearly 12 feet tall and only started growing 70 days ago. Any tips for the bugs or the rabbits and deer would be much appreciated. Rock on my friend.

Hey woodmsan I started a thread, check it out, I hope I am posting the link right

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/205592-rhinos-wild-scrogged-indoors.html

Boulderheads said:

The pest issue I hope manages itself. I take my dogs with me and make sure they get their scent everywhere, and I am not sure what to do about bugs and such once the budding starts. This is the first attempt outdoors, and I am doing this guerrilla style. I live on the 40 degrees north latitude. The vegetation you see grows annually. The terrain has been flooded out many times in the past 50 years and has sandy fertile soil. Lies right next to a fairly wide creek. The vegetation surrounding the patches is nearly 12 feet tall and only started growing 70 days ago. Any tips for the bugs or the rabbits and deer would be much appreciated. Rock on my friend.

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Well there are countless ways to manage pests, I suggest you do a bit of research. I however deal with pests that are of the larger breed. Bears and Moose mostly. My trick for them does keep smaller critters at bay too. What I do is use Ammonia in different manners. For instance, a bear that is smelling out my grow from 20 yards away will most likely be doing so from all fours. His head would then be around 4 to 6 feet from the ground. At about that level I hang a coffee can with sponges full of ammonia inside. I punch a few holes in the side of the container and when the sent hits his nose upon searching for the plants, the typicall reaction is to turn and run. If it does not turn him on a dime, he will most likely head off in search of somthing that smells better, leaving your area alone. This method can be used for game of all sizes and even on ground level for say rodents. Another trick that works well for rodents is to place a bucket on the ground near your area. Poke two holes at the top of the buckets edge in the side of the bucket just under the rim. Make sure the hole is large enough for a small nail, and lightly tack up a dowel rod so that it acts like a tight rope walk across the top of the bucket over the water for any little critter that chooses that path. Next make a ramp with something stable up to the top of the ramp that small rodents can travel easily. In the center of the dowel which will be suspended over the bucket, put another small nail that can hold bait. Once the dowel rod is baited and attached to the bucket, make sure that the dowel rolls easily on the nails holding it. Add something to the wood to make it less easy to grip (Crisco works wonders). Make sure to put a few holes about two or three inches down from the rim of the bucket as to let rain water not fill the bucket completely. The rest is up to the critter. Ill draw it up.

If you are SERIOUS about riding your pests, fill half the bucket with Coolant. (Radiator Fluid) However, if your neighbors dog visits your grow area, don’t expect him to come home after you have done so.

It is pretty thick everywhere, but I do follow some game trails back to each location, and judging by the hoof prints around each spot I know I have at least a few deer keeping an eye on my ladies. Next on the list are rabbits, and land beavers. I read that cayenne pepper or Tabasco sauce irritates the the nasal membrane turning the animal away. Also garlic, pepper, human or dog hair. I though about trying to collect urine from my dogs and spray the surrounding area with dog urine? As for the deer I am hoping the same remedies will apply to them as well. The coffee can with ammonia sounds very effective. I wish I could pack enough fencing or mesh material to build like a 2 foot tall perimeter, but I can only take a backpack.. maybe I could take it in in sections and zip tie the sections together??? Chicken wire or something??

Your always a well of knowledge my friend, thank you for your continued support. Full week of sun coming up here. I'll take pics at end of the week.

Speaking of Hair. Stop by your local barber and pick up a few bags of human hair. That will work wonders!

Update comming soon!

awsome grow woodsman. i really like the strains and the stories behind them.

Thanks there Flori,

I enjoy sharing my stories!

Anyone Ready for an UPDATE?

woodsmantoker said:

Anyone Ready for an UPDATE?

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ive been ready friend bring it on

lets see them bitches....

Bring it on baby... you know we are all over here drooling. You do quality work my friend

were still waiting lol i hope it happens tonight

Well I think I have been quite successful in keeping a "very stretchy" sativa small and manageable. I have managed to provide 10 clones from the Arjan’s Haze. (Five from each plant) I have plans for a few more, but mostly will be spending the rest of the time training them for there next faze; Scrog of course.

I have added a few pictures of lower growth that I plan to use as more clones. I thought I would add these so that you can see where on the plant they are taken from. This also helps shape the lower parts of the plant for the Scrog by allowing room for undergrowth pruning, watering, training tops by pulling back through, etc.

I have painted the vegg room with a base of killz paint to prevent mildew/mold. I will also treat the wood below the plants. The walls have now been prep'd for the next layer of reflective material which will most likely be Mylar. (Tip: Many "Camping?" Emergency blankets are made of Mylar)

I also plan to put in a permanent drip pan that will direct the waste water from my plants, below the flooring, and into a water recycler that provides for the garden and green house.