Under Sanders, income and jobs would soar, economist says

If you steal 14 trillion dollars from one group of people to distribute to another group of people it does not create economic growth...

It never will...

Look at the history of our government. They keep stealing more and more and re-distributing it and our debt keeps growing and our standard of living keeps dropping...
 
pnwmystery said:
Did you not read the entire thing? 3 paragraphs down.

"median household income would be $82,200 by 2026, far higher than the $59,300 projected by the Congressional Budget Office."
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You dippy-dong, read that whole paragraph --- not even that ding bat of an economist believes it's going to happen.

Where does the operating capital come from? More debt?

We're at a 2% GPD growth, we have to get to 6 for the Bern's shit to kick in. So how long are you free stuff guys willing to wait?

You and Paddy will starve to death waiting for a free sandwich.

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MuyLocoNC said:
Is that where Cheebs gets his charts and focus on the deficit, while never addressing increases in debt?
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Who cares? It is just propaganda. The unemployment rate is awesome because the government stops counting people looking for work. There is no inflation because we just dont count certain stuff that would indicate inflation...

They dont realize it is the politicians that are the problem, the politicians and the government have them brainwashed that it is the fault of someone else that they cant keep their budgets under control or they cant keep the borders secure or they cant stop taking massive campaign donations. The government is just a big bunch of victims really... LOL!!
 
You think ??? i mean really he want to take more money from the remaining companies and the rich could it be backwards ???? with companies deciding to move to mexico , japan hell even Canada or china i think i know if i owned a corporation and if he pushed more taxes out of me i would close the doors any let everyone go move company sure where ever company lands other then usa people will be grateful
and then people can scratch there ass at the welfare line
 
pnwmystery said:
Did you not read the entire thing? 3 paragraphs down.

"median household income would be $82,200 by 2026, far higher than the $59,300 projected by the Congressional Budget Office."
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Why not just print more money and give everyone $10 million? What could go wrong?
 
MuyLocoNC said:
All that deficit reduction and here we sit, with ~$10 trillion (with a fuckin T) in new debt.
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how is it new debt when all he has done is reduce future debt?

he would have had to add to the deficit he inherited in order for the debt created to be "new" debt.

do you not understand how the budget works?
 
2ANONYMOUS said:
You think ??? i mean really he want to take more money from the remaining companies and the rich could it be backwards ???? with companies deciding to move to mexico , japan hell even Canada or china i think i know if i owned a corporation and if he pushed more taxes out of me i would close the doors any let everyone go move company sure where ever company lands other then usa people will be grateful
and then people can scratch there ass at the welfare line
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so, how do you like the taxation in Canada?
 
ttystikk said:
After all the fantasies the Republican party has asked us to believe for all these years, I think I'm willing to believe in this one from Mr Sanders.

The stimulus will come simply from exiting this current economic depression era.
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interesting you say that for all these years Obama Democrat Bush republican Clinton Demorat Reagan Democrat what years are you referring to ???

Fog Taxes in Canada like everywhere else it goes in tiers as in income but is my taxes being used properly ,, lets see here Free Healthcare , schooling is on par , infrastructure as in roadways bridges well my roads are plowed streets are in good shape bridges are not falling down ,, trees are pruned sidewalks are repaired .. government programs are free as in upgrading so overall i guess one cannot complain ..
Can you say that in your area ??? i mean most american cities are in red roads are in terrible shape no free health care, schooling falling behind Government programs being cut and its going to get worse

Sanders reminds me of that old guy that ran whats his name ??? something paul lol who ended up defeated easily lol

What Sanders is thinking the rich will take care of it all after there taxed ??? what about the amount outstanding now you cannot keep doing stimilus packages think of them as a band aid its not correcting the real problem
And for most of the statistics on unemployed thats all hog wash alot more then they will admitting le say the true horrific numbers
 
NLXSK1 said:
If you steal 14 trillion dollars from one group of people to distribute to another group of people it does not create economic growth...

It never will...

Look at the history of our government. They keep stealing more and more and re-distributing it and our debt keeps growing and our standard of living keeps dropping...
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who was it stolen from and who received it?
 
NLXSK1 said:
If you steal 14 trillion dollars from one group of people to distribute to another group of people it does not create economic growth...

It never will...

Look at the history of our government. They keep stealing more and more and re-distributing it and our debt keeps growing and our standard of living keeps dropping...
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you said see people been shaking there money bag for a while problem is there never was money in nor will there ever be

truth is
To put 14 percent of gross domestic product in perspective, current federal revenue totals 14.9 percent of GDP. So the IMF is saying that closing the U.S. fiscal gap, from the revenue side, requires, roughly speaking, an immediate and permanent doubling of your personal-income, corporate and federal taxes as well as the payroll levy set down in the Federal Insurance Contribution Act.

Such a tax hike would leave the U.S. running a surplus equal to 5 percent of GDP this year, rather than a 9 percent deficit. So the IMF is really saying the U.S. needs to run a huge surplus now and for many years to come to pay for the spending that is scheduled. It’s also saying the longer the country waits to make tough fiscal adjustments, the more painful they will be.
 
ChesusRice said:
no matter which Metric you use the unemployment rate is down
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So is the deficit but that does not mean either is in good shape.

My point is that the unemployment rate is not actually the unemployment rate. It is a propaganda tool. If we really had 4.9% unemployment the economy would be booming. So the politicians lie and play number games because they think that will improve the economy which is simply bullshit...
 
2ANONYMOUS said:
interesting you say that for all these years Obama Democrat Bush republican Clinton Demorat Reagan Democrat what years are you referring to ???

Fog Taxes in Canada like everywhere else it goes in tiers as in income but is my taxes being used properly ,, lets see here Free Healthcare , schooling is on par , infrastructure as in roadways bridges well my roads are plowed streets are in good shape bridges are not falling down ,, trees are pruned sidewalks are repaired .. government programs are free as in upgrading so overall i guess one cannot complain ..
Can you say that in your area ??? i mean most american cities are in red roads are in terrible shape no free health care, schooling falling behind Government programs being cut and its going to get worse

Sanders reminds me of that old guy that ran whats his name ??? something paul lol who ended up defeated easily lol

What Sanders is thinking the rich will take care of it all after there taxed ??? what about the amount outstanding now you cannot keep doing stimilus packages think of them as a band aid its not correcting the real problem
And for most of the statistics on unemployed thats all hog wash alot more then they will admitting le say the true horrific numbers
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You keep calling it free health care when you just admitted that you paid for it.

I would like to sell you lots more free stuff if you are interested!!
 
ttystikk said:
After all the fantasies the Republican party has asked us to believe for all these years, I think I'm willing to believe in this one from Mr Sanders.

The stimulus will come simply from exiting this current economic depression era.
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it's been proven to work ala Roosevelt.

and tax cuts are a fancy way of saying wealth redistribution to the top..in reality they don't get to decide who benefits how taxes are appropriated.. government does.

their brains are missing a chip.

the wealthy do not pay their fair share and even NO share..they are unamerican to let our country devolve in this manner.

no amount of talking to them will ever fix this though.

in business, they consider employee taxes withheld to be theirs..net to the employee (which is the real pay grade) the difference between gross and net theirs..that's why so many don't make tax payments on behalf of their employees and why government comes down hard with penalty and interest ..'but that's MY money'..I've heard this so many times..NO! you have fiduciary responsibility to your employee to transmit to government.

you would not believe the questions I've been asked in the past on ways to CHEAT their employees..how can/do I?
'mr Scorp I'm not the payroll police..all I can do is what you hired me for..consult on payroll tax law'..then I would issue a CYA letter outlining what they've been advised and what they are asking me to do which they must sign before I allow the file out for process.

therefore we will speak with our vote and they will also be limited to one vote..this we can do.

once Sanders is in the very next step will be to repeal and limit campaign finance..lobby MUST be disbanded or we will be stuck with the near same (not as bad as blackly blackensteins black cooties) gridlock regardless of his bipartisanship and tenure in Washington.
 
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schuylaar said:
it's been proven to work ala Roosevelt.

and tax cuts are a fancy way of saying wealth redistribution to the top..in reality they don't get to decide who benefits how taxes are appropriated.. government does.

the wealthy do not pay their fair share and even NO share..they are unamerican to let our country devolve in this manner.

no amount of talking to them will ever fix this though.

therefore we will speak with our vote and they will also be limited to one vote..this we can do.
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How much in taxes did you pay this year?

You dont pay taxes and dont work yet demand that the people who do work pay a lot more in taxes so you can get benefits for not working.

That attitude is irritating to the productive members of society.
 
NLXSK1 said:
Every time the government increases the debt it is taxation without representation. The government should be forced to live within their budget.

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You need to google "No taxation without representation", so you would understand where it came from and what it meant.
Did you and others have the right to vote in you state ? Do you realize you were voting for representation. Now how your congress man voted is another story, but you do have representation. Why do you say stupid shit ? Almost as dumb as you not knowing how E-verify works, whilst claiming to unknowing hire illegal immigrants
 
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