NewGrower2011
Well-Known Member
So I have a space setup with 4 SIP(s) and in the past I had ran 2 plants per container and on the run prior to the latest I had my biggest haul ever, personal best.
This time around I flipped the SIP(s) back into use pretty quickly after sprucing them up a bit with some fresh amendments and letting it cook a couple weeks. So aside from normal grower woes and known influences that would help or hinder things I had 1 major variable in this run that I attribute to the reason and wanted to see what others think and how they expect it would have influenced the outcome.
I had 2 sets of clones; I'm really bad about taking them loooong before they are needed. I often have clones sitting around rooted in little 1 gal plastics that can easily be 12-16 weeks old as I keep them with the moms as backup plans just in case a mom is lost or the current run goes south and I want to start over asap. The 1st set of clones came out of an aerocloner and they too had sat for too long and even been topped while still in the cloner. The other set was these 'well aged' clones that had been in 1 gals for long enough to have circling root when I took them out. Many weeks old and kept under some HLG boards at lower wattage to not go full-on veg mode and drive them any harder than you needed for keeping them healthy.
I fully expected the 'well aged' clones to kick the asses of the fresh clones as they had a well established root ball. The others from the cloner had nice roots but I would have expected mature root ball to do better. This was so not the case; The fresh clones lagged behind at first but then took off and left the others behind. The ones that came from the 'well aged' clones were frankly pathetic. While they sat they were topped multiple times - and there were tons of teeny tiny stems/tops because of that. I figured this would turn into a lot of nice tops after the stretch. But what happened was the 'well aged' clones stayed small with puny stems, flopped over early (keep fucking up and not building my screens to make them SIP/SCROG combos) and way under produced - to the tune of 2 of the SIP containers with those didn't produce the same amount as just 1 SIP of the same strain/clone/mom that was from the cloner.
Other variables would account for under-performing from the last as I avoided adding any goodies and the last time I was top-feeding every once in a while with some goodies from NFTG and others. But everything being the same otherwise the 2 containers vs 1 container of same clone/strain showed massive difference.
So now I'm eyeballing my current well-aged clones and wondering if they should just go into the scrap pile and just take some fresh cuttings from the moms.
Anyone know their biology enough to explain this outcome?
This time around I flipped the SIP(s) back into use pretty quickly after sprucing them up a bit with some fresh amendments and letting it cook a couple weeks. So aside from normal grower woes and known influences that would help or hinder things I had 1 major variable in this run that I attribute to the reason and wanted to see what others think and how they expect it would have influenced the outcome.
I had 2 sets of clones; I'm really bad about taking them loooong before they are needed. I often have clones sitting around rooted in little 1 gal plastics that can easily be 12-16 weeks old as I keep them with the moms as backup plans just in case a mom is lost or the current run goes south and I want to start over asap. The 1st set of clones came out of an aerocloner and they too had sat for too long and even been topped while still in the cloner. The other set was these 'well aged' clones that had been in 1 gals for long enough to have circling root when I took them out. Many weeks old and kept under some HLG boards at lower wattage to not go full-on veg mode and drive them any harder than you needed for keeping them healthy.
I fully expected the 'well aged' clones to kick the asses of the fresh clones as they had a well established root ball. The others from the cloner had nice roots but I would have expected mature root ball to do better. This was so not the case; The fresh clones lagged behind at first but then took off and left the others behind. The ones that came from the 'well aged' clones were frankly pathetic. While they sat they were topped multiple times - and there were tons of teeny tiny stems/tops because of that. I figured this would turn into a lot of nice tops after the stretch. But what happened was the 'well aged' clones stayed small with puny stems, flopped over early (keep fucking up and not building my screens to make them SIP/SCROG combos) and way under produced - to the tune of 2 of the SIP containers with those didn't produce the same amount as just 1 SIP of the same strain/clone/mom that was from the cloner.
Other variables would account for under-performing from the last as I avoided adding any goodies and the last time I was top-feeding every once in a while with some goodies from NFTG and others. But everything being the same otherwise the 2 containers vs 1 container of same clone/strain showed massive difference.
So now I'm eyeballing my current well-aged clones and wondering if they should just go into the scrap pile and just take some fresh cuttings from the moms.
Anyone know their biology enough to explain this outcome?