Unicorns

On Drugs Inc by NatGeo? I've seen it. I feel bad for that dude and everyone else who gets clusters and doesn't like tripping. I wish we could eat the mushrooms and share the benefits.

I'm not sure it was drugs inc... it was 'taboo: drugs'..the one where the girl pumps K ect...but I'm sure you've seen it...

Do we have to have done the drug(s) in question?

In my perusing the internet lately I came across this drug by the name of EA-3167. Manufactured for use in chemical warfare, it is a deliriant of the same class as several of the compounds found in datura. The part that interested me the most was duration being listed as 5-10 days. Shit son. Of course, I have no interest in trying it, but hey, the thought of being in a delirious state for a week is nearly enough to put me on a trip. I wonder what other fucked up shit has been cooked up in government labs that will probably never see the light of day.

And now you know the rest of the story. I just had to get er out of my system.

rory420420 said:

I'm not sure it was drugs inc... it was 'taboo: drugs'..the one where the girl pumps K ect...but I'm sure you've seen it...

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The Texan guy who hated tripping? I'm sure I've seen it. I'm a drug geek!

Steve French said:

Do we have to have done the drug(s) in question?

In my perusing the internet lately I came across this drug by the name of EA-3167. Manufactured for use in chemical warfare, it is a deliriant of the same class as several of the compounds found in datura. The part that interested me the most was duration being listed as 5-10 days. Shit son. Of course, I have no interest in trying it, but hey, the thought of being in a delirious state for a week is nearly enough to put me on a trip. I wonder what other fucked up shit has been cooked up in government labs that will probably never see the light of day.

And now you know the rest of the story. I just had to get er out of my system.

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The Edgewood Arsenal put out lots of interesting things. The idea of belladonna alkaloid analogues that last for a week just sounds awful.

Too by you can't 'breed' chems like pot..LSD X EA-3167....YEAAAAHHHH!
SPUN FOR A WEEK!!!!!!

Edit...too bad.

Instead you get to play with teh structure activity relationship by adding or subtracting or moving functional groups on a molecule. Usually we can make pretty god estimates but sometimes we get major surprises. For example with phenethylamines and amphetamines putting an alkyl group on the nitrogen almost always kills the activity (it increases from amp -> meth, stays similar from MDA -> MDMA, and dies with everything else) and putting a bigger group on drops pretty significantly (ethamphetamine and MDEA are both much weaker than meth and MDMA and the propyl and isopropyl derivatives are inactive), until you put the GIANT NBOMe group on and activity skyrockets. This is why you should always start with tiny doses of new chemicals. Hoffman took 250ug thinking it couldn't possibly have been active. Imagine if he had taken a few mg?

That really woulda been epic,but tragic..I think a 2mg first trip woulda scared him to where he might think it was poison and discontinued experimentation...that being said I agree with the sample dose of any chem..even shrooms..don't go swimming if you don't know how deep the water is....I did this with my first nbome experience and I was glad..500ug to test the water,and 3 hours later I went high-diving as usual with 1000ug...20mins after the 1000ug 'pick me up' I was on the floor watching colors..glad I didn't take 2000ug off the bat like the little voices in my head were cheering me to do so..lol

Although,my first trip was about 400ug,maybe 500...

rory420420 said:

That really woulda been epic,but tragic..I think a 2mg first trip woulda scared him to where he might think it was poison and discontinued experimentation...that being said I agree with the sample dose of any chem..even shrooms..don't go swimming if you don't know how deep the water is....I did this with my first nbome experience and I was glad..500ug to test the water,and 3 hours later I went high-diving as usual with 1000ug...20mins after the 1000ug 'pick me up' I was on the floor watching colors..glad I didn't take 2000ug off the bat like the little voices in my head were cheering me to do so..lol

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With a new swimming hole it's best to make sure the water is safe before jumping in. Even if you know it's safe enough to jump in I don't recommend starting with flips off the high dive. Tryptamines won't kill you as a general rule but PEAs absolutely will.

rory420420 said:

Although,my first trip was about 400ug,maybe 500...

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I think I did in the 250-300ug range. I wanted to see what 1 of Bear's doses would have been like so I ate three gels that in retrospect were pretty good!

Mmmmm,silver....

In psycology we watched a video on this man who had, what one scientists theory was, a overactive 'God Gene'. Basically the man was trippppppppiiiinnng ballz all the time all day long. He was interviewed and he kept saying he was god, he loved everyone, hes not god but were all part of god, i feel so good, then he would cry nd snapout of it and laugh. then he got quite n said he knows he is sick but he feels like god is in everything.

seen it Duck?

Haven't seen that one.

it sounds like the mast people in india. around the 50s and 60's meher baba opened up a community type thing, where people, as you explained could go there and he would help them ascend to the next level of their spiritual path.

Or it's someone who brain filters information differently. My wife has the vivid colors and pattern recognition constantly.

could be. many of these people, especially if they are on a spiritual path, see god everywhere and in everything. needing a spiritual guide to either pass them into that world, or stabilize them so that they can be present while on earth.

The God gene hypothesis proposes that a specific gene (VMAT2) predisposes humans towards spiritual or mystic experiences. The idea has been postulated by geneticist Dean Hamer, the director of the Gene Structure and Regulation Unit at the U.S. National Cancer Institute, and author of the 2005 book The God Gene: How Faith is Hardwired into our Genes.



This explains to me why Christians you meet will have that LSD glow to them sometimes. They even claim to have that 'inner light' or they feel like they are on a 'spiritual high'. Yet, they can be the shadiest people you know too. I have met plenty of 'christians' that purport that 'inner light' yet they are cheating on their spouse and/or liars, untrustworthy people. This come from prayer and worship of a god. The Gene has been hardwired into all of us after 100,000s of thousands of years of DMT like experiences and mysticism.

or jeezus touched them and I am going to hell. which is fine cuz fuck spending eternity with a bunch of christians.... my lord that sounds like punishment worse than hell fire

I've met plenty of douhebag acid heads too. Theres assholes everywhere. The worst of them even manage to look like good people most of the time.

there are plenty of great christians people, mormons, jews, acid heads... And there are nice tweakers too.

then there is the regular Joes.

I'm trying to believe the glass is a quarter full but it seems three quarters empty.