unrooted clones now bending--1 day old

duckee1

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I have a question about my clones. I took them yesterday and they were all pretty much vertical. Now today when I looked in on them, they are crooked in the stem. Meaning they have started to lean or bend. I am also very new to cloning, like this is my 3rd time at it. The other times they never bent over or crooked.

Help me out ---- mabey Im just overthinking it and just need to wait it out and start to worry after 10 days. I have been feeding the mommas advanced nutrients B-52 from seedling and I foliar feed 1/4 strength B-52 3 days prior to taking the cuttings. You think they are just leaning towards the light. I have 2 23w daylight CFL (200w equilalent with both bulbs) as their light source. Is that enough or should I go with a t-5. The light is 9-10" away from the dome.

I also have 3- 13.5w led panels ( ebay specials ) that have:

60 Blue light LEDs: 465nm (nanometer) wave length
165 Red light LEDs: 650nm (nanometer) wave length 165 + 60 = Total 225 LEDs
I am using 2 of these on my orchids and lillies and they are loving the shit out of em. I know they are pretty weak since each led is only .06w. I can put up a picture of the clones if need be.

FYI- I have a digital thermostat for my heat mat that keeps the temp within 2 degrees +/- of the set temp. Temp of the rockwool is set at 79 F. Then I also have a digital aquarium temp that say the ambient air is 74-75. Which from what I understand is optimal to have the air slightly cooler than the root zone. Light is on 24hrs. What the hell is going on here.
 

amrcngror

Active Member
they look fine man, only thing i cant tell how moist your keeping them make sure they stay pretty wet
 

duckee1

Member
I would assume that the RH is at 100% or very close, I took the dome off once for the pics. I have plans on once daily air exchange just for a quick second or two. And I have been exhaling in the propagator through out the day. The leaves have a very fine, but few condensation drops on them. I figured it is not a big deal considering the High RH.

thanks for the input bro, but why do you think the stems are like that. also, any comments or advise on the lighting.
 

bird mcbride

Well-Known Member
I use a single drain/air hole about the size of a canadian toonie. There is really know reason to leave the packing plastic on the rockwool cubes. I fill my cubes and mist my clones when I first put them in and every 5-7 days there after until they leave the bin with a pump up sprayer. I approve your bin and see you got it going on the correct track:) Great innovative thinking.
 

duckee1

Member
I use a single drain/air hole about the size of a canadian toonie. There is really know reason to leave the packing plastic on the rockwool cubes. I fill my cubes and mist my clones when I first put them in and every 5-7 days there after until they leave the bin with a pump up sprayer. I approve your bin and see you got it going on the correct track:) Great innovative thinking.

Thanks man I have been lurking in this forum for a long time and have learned a huge bank of knowlege. As far as the rockwool with the plastic still on it- lol, Im just a lazy pot head.
 

duckee1

Member
You say the rockwool itself is 79 degrees? There's a clue.
Whats wrong with 79F rootzone? The temp controller is accurate within 2 degrees, so at most were talkin 81F and again, whats wrong with that?

I thought the warmer (not hot) it is the faster they root. Not to mention that I have a shit load of advanced nutrients microbial innoculations to add in and House & Garden roots excelerator. If I recall correctly, warmer temps are optimal for a thriving microbial population. Once established in the rhizome, temps can be reduced to an acceptable temp....say 72-75F. Also since these are unrooted clones there is no need for nutrients. Temperature plays a role in the plants ability to utilize nutrient compounds and which nutrients will be available.
 

bseeds

Well-Known Member
your temps fine they look ok to me now but if you think thers all lening the same way which is tores the light then put light directly over them
 

duckee1

Member
your temps fine they look ok to me now but if you think thers all lening the same way which is tores the light then put light directly over them
I was thinking the same thing. Thats why I asked about a t5 in a earlier post. But I think thats what Im gonna do anyways. 2ft 4 or 6 lamp fixture should do it without a question. Or mabey a 2800-6500k white led veg light?
 

duckee1

Member
just a little update:

All clones rooted as of today (day 4 away from mother) Starting to harden them off. Will be ready for veg room in 3 days.
 
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