Upper leaves turning yellow and curling downward in 2nd week of flower

Lord Dangly Bits said:
Hey there Jay, :)
I look at your crop and see this same trouble all over the place. When my lights are on, The top fan leafs turn and stretch up for the light, like a big hard on. All of yours are drooping down.
In your first post, your leafs have very pronounced ridges within the leaf. What conditions are the plants under. Temps, Humdidity, types of medium and nutrients. PPM fed. And both PH and PPM of a representative sample of the run off.

hard to tell what is going on with just the photo, But I have a good idea, but more info would make it more then a guess.
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Your gay. Leaves don't look like a hard on at all. This is not going to help anybody.The leaves are drooping becasue he took the pictures right before dark and his plants were about to go sleep. Dangly tits could have all the info on this guys grow, and still not know what the hell is going on.
 
I see Munch Box is flapping his Lips again. Have no idea what he said. Still have him on ignore from years ago. He loves to cause trouble and thow out miss information to try and kill peoples plants. So watch out for this Putz!
 
I had to look and see what Munch Box had to say. Hmm. His plants are wilting because they know the lights are going to go out soon? My plants never droop that bad, even after the lights have been out for 4 hours. Check this photo out. Lights have been out for 4 hours. and the leafs are still standing up trying to get to the lights. They have relaxed some, but not Drooping. When the lights are on, a lot of my leafs on top are standing on end. Maybe your plants droop while the lights are on, But I know mine do not, unless something is screwed up.
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munch box said:
Your gay. Leaves don't look like a hard on at all. This is not going to help anybody.The leaves are drooping becasue he took the pictures right before dark and his plants were about to go sleep. Dangly tits could have all the info on this guys grow, and still not know what the hell is going on.
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Id rather take Lord Dangley's advice, from what your telling us his leaves are drooping as part of some natural cycle to do with lights on and off! I dont even think my healthy leaves droop whatsoever and are always standing up some reaching for the lights.

I'd give everyones opinion a fair chance but you add insults to what you say so not constructive although you joined four years ago and you still think a plant knows when the lights are going to go off rather than it senses no more light and begins it night cycle and hormone production!lol! Real clever dude, do i get insulted next!lol!

Peace
 
Hey Dangley, real nice plants, that soil or coco? What week flowering and how many weeks is flowering cycle? Peace
 
Holy hell what just happened?? LOL.... I appreciate all helpful comments, but negativity blows.... Anyway, back to the TOPIC....

So, I did everything that you said last night..... Heres the readings I came up with.

The PH going in with Nutrients was 5.2, and it came out at 6.4 (on the FLowering Girls)

The PH going in with Nutrients was 5.7, and came out 6.0 (on the Vegging Girls) _ which seem to be fine......

The PPMs is where I get confused...... Am I supposed to be looking at the X's 500 PPM, or the X's 700 PPM? I was originally told not to look at PPMs, to just calculate by EC readings....

So, I EC going in mixed w/ Nutrients was @ 1.7, and it came out at like 1.8-1.9 (on the flowering Girls)

The EC going in mixed w/ Nutrients was @ 1.5, and it came out at like 2.2 (on the Vegging girls)

So, what is my EC or PPM supposed to be coming out? and again, if we are talking about PPMs, which one do I want..... the X's 500, or X's 700 chart.... Thanks
 
Lord Dangly Bits said:
I had to look and see what Munch Box had to say. Hmm. His plants are wilting because they know the lights are going to go out soon? My plants never droop that bad, even after the lights have been out for 4 hours. Check this photo out. Lights have been out for 4 hours. and the leafs are still standing up trying to get to the lights. They have relaxed some, but not Drooping. When the lights are on, a lot of my leafs on top are standing on end. Maybe your plants droop while the lights are on, But I know mine do not, unless something is screwed up.
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You left a hater mark on my rep page a week ago looser. After 3 years you want to provoke me. Why ? for what? You saw my journal where I cropped out big weight.... So now you hate because you're still growing long skinny branches with small nugs up the sides. Thats why you show your pics to newbies all the time, try and boost your confidence.RIU has known it for years. Got you all figured out
 

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Either WAYY over watered, but im guessing you know better than to do that by the size of things.. Either way my heart would be broken.. Just looking at the room. god I hope I never have to wakeup and see something like this. Props on the grow though :)
 
jayfury said:
I actually have these 3 pics from last week...... The lights were off...... Same girls
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whats your ph at? definately have a magnesium deficiency there. could be locked out from ph. magnesium gets locked out with a ph of less than 6.5
 
Jesus, I didnt think they were THAT bad looking.. LOL ..... I definitely dont know better than to over water..... this is my first real FULL run... Thats why Im beggin for help... I thought Coco coulnt be overwatered???? If it can, than how do I water it??? Im watering every day to every other day, and always getting the 20% run off to waste.... How do I know if its over watering? It seems to only happen in the flower room, and for the first 2-4 weeks.....
 
Dont water everyday let soil dry out before the next.. see if that helps. Pick up the pots so you can "Feel" what its like when fresh watered and heavy and what its like when its light and dry
 
HottFuzz said:
whats your ph at? definately have a magnesium deficiency there. could be locked out from ph. magnesium gets locked out with a ph of less than 6.5
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I was PHing my feeds at 5.7.... How is it locked out at less than 6.5 if Im supposed to PH to 5.5-5.8? Im confused
 
And congratz for this being the 1st run.. Wish my 1st was that size ^^
jayfury said:
Jesus, I didnt think they were THAT bad looking.. LOL ..... I definitely dont know better than to over water..... this is my first real FULL run... Thats why Im beggin for help... I thought Coco coulnt be overwatered???? If it can, than how do I water it??? Im watering every day to every other day, and always getting the 20% run off to waste.... How do I know if its over watering? It seems to only happen in the flower room, and for the first 2-4 weeks.....
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RawBudzski said:
Dont water everyday let soil dry out before the next.. see if that helps. Pick up the pots so you can "Feel" what its like when fresh watered and heavy and what its like when its light and dry
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I have been doing this for the last week.... It hasnt helped really... Its Coco, not Soil.... Im not sure if it makes a difference... Im getting so much contradicting advice, my head is spinning at this point... LOL... One person says "water daily, you cant over water coco".... Another says "Water every other, or when pots are light".... I dont know whao to listen to.... and at the same time, I got other people making me look like a chemist with all my readings and such.... but still no answer.. Im dying here.... SOS.. LOL
 
Rawbudzki: You seem to be very knowledgable on this subject..... Knowing it is Botanicaire Coco, SOul Synthetics Nutes..... do you have anymore advice?
 
I did not read that it was coco and im no vet or pro @ it. Honestly look into it cause coco may be diff.. i never used it. sorry for Referring to soil
 
people that grow in coco have reported better results with the ph slightly higher than other hydroponic mediums. try to keep your between 6.0-6.2 Same goes for people who grow in the sunshine mix. ph should be above 6
 
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