Urgent help!! Cant figure out deficiency!!

getogrow said:

i didnt read the whole thread but you need nitrogen BAD. give them some extra nitrogen an water them correctly. it will take awhile but they will come out of it






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Wrong. He was using a good organic soil with nutrients then dumped a bunch of synthetics on it.

If it is starving it is because of lock out.

You put them in too large of pots for that small of plants. The soil will stay wet too long. I would dig them out and put them in 6-8" pots and put them in the buckets when they're too big for the smaller pots. They also look undernourished. Also the CO2 will do little good with the exhaust fans going.

if its overwatered then yes i agree , they are locked out. let them dry good as you can without knowing much an feed with nitrogen .....plain water will not help that. been there too many times and a "flush" is only gonna make it worse.

"flushing" is not that simple in soil.




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BobCajun said:

You put them in too large of pots for that small of plants. The soil will stay wet too long. I would dig them out and put them in 6-8" pots and put them in the buckets when they're too big for the smaller pots. They also look undernourished. Also the CO2 will do little good with the exhaust fans going.

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agreed

He's already re-potted them!

Im about to get new babies fuck it... . I already got a new alcapoca and i can easily get 5 to restart with 6 total again. Can i still keep the slow ones in the set up? Maybe try to bring them back as the new ones grow. Also, my boy says i can also flip them now as an option but i feel like the yeild wouldnt be worth the time...

Meechytrill said:

Im about to get new babies fuck it... . I already got a new alcapoca and i can easily get 5 to restart with 6 total again. Can i still keep the slow ones in the set up? Maybe try to bring them back as the new ones grow. Also, my boy says i can also flip them now as an option but i feel like the yeild wouldnt be worth the time...

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You're never going to get high yield from soil anyway. Why not just use perlite or perlite/coco mix and feed with organic hydro nutes, if you're an organic type grower. I wouldn't grow in dirt unless all perlite on earth ran out. It just doesn't have good enough characteristics as a growth medium. It compacts, attracts insects and alters pH. I really don't get the appeal.

Im taking pictures of them today. Ive been feeding only water for 2 feeds already. Slowly ppm after runnoff seems to be gowing down but someone mentioned its organic so dont listen to run off. The plants seem to be growing. The new growth seems to be doing better. Minimial burnt tips on new growth. I forgot to mention these plants are lst'd and topped. The gsc is growing with 4 main colas looks nice actually just looks fragile...i need to take better pics.

Meechytrill said:

Im about to get new babies fuck it... . I already got a new alcapoca and i can easily get 5 to restart with 6 total again. Can i still keep the slow ones in the set up? Maybe try to bring them back as the new ones grow. Also, my boy says i can also flip them now as an option but i feel like the yeild wouldnt be worth the time...

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Sounds like the best plan, and you sure can keep the ones you got. If anything you can leave them on the sides and it should form half decent nugs. Most everything else is blast material which isnt bad at all. Might as well blast some shatter and keep you busy lol.

this guy is a newb , lets help him like one not lead him into failure. DO NOT flip the ones you have yet...complete waste of time but keep them with the new babies an let them regrow. im telling you right now them girls need food .....instant nitrogen not "organic" . i am organic person , i love soil but sometimes they need hit with instant food (chemicals) to get them back on track. the soil you have is great buts its not got the ammount of food you think in it. feed them quickly an they will snap right out of it.

yes soil will produce "high yields" to think differently is laziness.



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soil does not come with a "manual" like water does. its tough to master an takes a long time (years) but in the end yours will be superior to the bland taste of dro but if your just doing it to hurry up an get um done an pretty then go with hydro. hydro comes with manuals an can be very good on first second third time trying.


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getogrow said:

soil does not come with a "manual" like water does. its tough to master an takes a long time (years) but in the end yours will be superior to the bland taste of dro but if your just doing it to hurry up an get um done an pretty then go with hydro. hydro comes with manuals an can be very good on first second third time trying.


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So i should add more nutes even though they are burned?? Shouldni foliar feed nutes?

they are not "burned", they just appear that way from not eating enough . No just use regular strength veg food. (full strength) at least two times in a row an watch um come right out of it.



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Its been a couple weeks now and they seem to be getting better. I have only been feeding water. I let them go through a drought to try and inhibit root growth. I had to move them due to an emergency but they seem to be doing ok. I had them out the tent and getting sun and they seemed to do some stretching. I think they really liked it because i saw them doing the sun dance praying to their god even though the light schedule was fucked up. Is it okay to mix sunlight with artificial? Now they are controlled under a new 700 wat mars full spectrum led. To whoever said just let the buckets dry out and only feed water is the winner. The ppm seems to be dropping every feed, some more than others. Now the ppms of the run off is 150-350 ppm after reducing what already was in the water. Ppm was at 500-600 before .If ppm even matters right? My ph pen is buggin but the soil advocates a 6.5 balance and it did read that everytime on my pen since i got the thing. I dont think adding nutes was a good idea and thats probably what burnt my plants. The soil is packed with nutrients and microbes. Eveythings been greening since i only been adding water.

This is the update. Still looking rough but better.