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padz

Member
just starting off in hydro so need some help i just put 10 litres of water in my flo grow tank and 25ml canna A 25ml canna B, ive check my ec which is 2.8 and my ph 3.3 what have i done wrong and how can i adjust this
 

m420p

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You need to dilute your tank with water to get that ec down and you need "ph up" and "ph down" to adjust your ph
 

m420p

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If you went by a feeding schedule that told you to add 25 mL of each and you will get a certain EC, don't. The schedules are RARELY right, its usually half to a third of what they say to add. What kind of water are you using?(distilled, RO, tap)
 

padz

Member
yea mate your rite i was going by a schedule from a man who told me i don't need a bloody ec meter!!!!!!!!!! im using tape water, the tap water is 6.9ph before i add the nutes im using canna hydro vega on the back it says use a maximum of 40ml to 10 litres ive just tried 25 and the ec seems high, whats the maximum i should have for the ec, ill have to buy some ph up tomorrow only have ph down
 

m420p

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yea mate your rite i was going by a schedule from a man who told me i don't need a bloody ec meter!!!!!!!!!! im using tape water, the tap water is 6.9ph before i add the nutes im using canna hydro vega on the back it says use a maximum of 40ml to 10 litres ive just tried 25 and the ec seems high, whats the maximum i should have for the ec, ill have to buy some ph up tomorrow only have ph down
How old are the plants? 2.8 EC is high for even full grown blooming plants.
 

m420p

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they are clones mate just got them today im just setting up for the 1st time.
Oh, you barely want any nutes in your tank then man otherwise you will burn them. They will be fine with just tap water at the moment, if your tap water isn't crappy, what EC is your tap? This is what I go by for a growing schedule related to nutes:
Seedlings, Early Sprouts .2 to .5 EC

Early Vegging .6 to .8 EC

Full Vegetation .9 to 1.4 EC

Early Blooming 1.5 to 1.9 EC

Full Mature Blooms 2.0 to 2.8 EC
 

padz

Member
my ec just tap water is 0.4, so should i just empty my tank completely? also the hydro shop gave me canna hygro vega hard water, my tape water is 6.9-7.0 ive read i need soft water and not hard!!
 

m420p

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.4 EC water is borderline usable in hydro. You could try sticking with it and see if your tap water works well but I would honestly just use distilled, RO, or rain water. Then you KNOW whats in your solution. If you decide to use your tap, just start out with no nutes and when you add nutes, don't forget to calculate in your EC of your tap water. I would just empty your res.(and even save the solution in jugs or bottle for later on) and just use water at the moment. PH will change all the time, thats why you need these:
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padz

Member
ive got ph down but will have to get ph up tomorrow to sort that out, i will try plain water then moving slow up with the nutes, thanks for all your help
 

Bernie420

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Why do I need to know what my EC is?
How do I test for it?
Is EC the same as my PPM?

Sorry just a noob havn't heard of EC till I read this thread
 

ak.fortyseven

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Total Dissolved Solids (TDS) is the best measurement of the nutrient concentration of a hydroponic solution. To estimate TDS, one can use a meter that measures the Electric Conductivity (EC) of a solution, and convert the number to TDS in parts per million (ppm). Many meters will do this conversion.

Total dissolved solids (TDS) is typically expressed in parts per million (ppm). It is a measurement of mass and determined by weighing, called a gravimetric analysis. A solution of nutrients dissolved in water at a strength of 700 ppm means that there are 700 milligrams if dissolved solids present for every liter of water. To accurately calculate total dissolved solids (TDS), one would evaporate a measured filtered sample to dryness, and weigh the residue. This type of measurement requires accurate liquid measurement, glassware, a drying oven, and a milligram balance. Example: 50 mL of the 700ppm solution would leave 35 mg of salt at the bottom of a crucible after drying.

Electrical Conductivity (EC) is expressed in siemens per centimeter (s/cm) or milliseimens per centimeter(ms/cm). It can be determined with an inexpensive hand held meter. Nutrient ions have an electrical charge, a whole number, usually a positive or negative 1, 2, or 3. EC is a measurement of all those charges in the solution that conduct electricity. The greater the quantity of nutrient ions in a solution, the more electricity that will be conducted by that solution. A material has a conductance of one siemens if one ampere of electric current can pass through it per volt of electric potential. It is the reciprocal of the ohm, the standard unit of electrical resistance. A siemens is also called a mho (ohm backwards).

For convenience, EC measurements often are converted to TDS units (ppm) by the meter.
 

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
ive got ph down but will have to get ph up tomorrow to sort that out, i will try plain water then moving slow up with the nutes, thanks for all your help
10 litres in a flow and grow that has a 55gal res why only put 10 litres =2 1/2 gals

also you can use plain water to raise your ph,
 

Bernie420

Well-Known Member
Total Dissolved Solids (TDS) is the best measurement of the nutrient concentration of a hydroponic solution. To estimate TDS, one can use a meter that measures the Electric Conductivity (EC) of a solution, and convert the number to TDS in parts per million (ppm). Many meters will do this conversion.

Total dissolved solids (TDS) is typically expressed in parts per million (ppm). It is a measurement of mass and determined by weighing, called a gravimetric analysis. A solution of nutrients dissolved in water at a strength of 700 ppm means that there are 700 milligrams if dissolved solids present for every liter of water. To accurately calculate total dissolved solids (TDS), one would evaporate a measured filtered sample to dryness, and weigh the residue. This type of measurement requires accurate liquid measurement, glassware, a drying oven, and a milligram balance. Example: 50 mL of the 700ppm solution would leave 35 mg of salt at the bottom of a crucible after drying.

Electrical Conductivity (EC) is expressed in siemens per centimeter (s/cm) or milliseimens per centimeter(ms/cm). It can be determined with an inexpensive hand held meter. Nutrient ions have an electrical charge, a whole number, usually a positive or negative 1, 2, or 3. EC is a measurement of all those charges in the solution that conduct electricity. The greater the quantity of nutrient ions in a solution, the more electricity that will be conducted by that solution. A material has a conductance of one siemens if one ampere of electric current can pass through it per volt of electric potential. It is the reciprocal of the ohm, the standard unit of electrical resistance. A siemens is also called a mho (ohm backwards).

For convenience, EC measurements often are converted to TDS units (ppm) by the meter.
Thanks............
 

Prefontaine

Well-Known Member
Why do I need to know what my EC is?
How do I test for it?
Is EC the same as my PPM?

Sorry just a noob havn't heard of EC till I read this thread
your ppm machine uses a math equation to calculate approximate ppm from EC which it actually reads, boom goes the dynamite
 
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