Okay guys let's take it down a notch. Everyone has had different experiences, people live in different climates and have different grow set up. I'm a total noob when it comes to this stuff, so everything you have all said and all the help you've given i greatly appreciate but there is no need to be at each others throats like this. You're both trying to achieve the same goal, helping a fellow grower and you have both done this. Thank you both for your input but please try and understand that we all have different experiences. We geow to medicate and relax, not attack each other. Peace and love guys. Thank you again.