yea only using earth juice and maybe a few other organics during flower. i have EJ natural down. It comes dry. I think its just sugar cane and mollasses or sumthing which is pretty exciting. i just started using it tho so well see if it will stabalize the ph. doesnt make much sense tho, people say EJ brings the ph down to like 4.5 naturally. y mine is 8 i cant figure out. no pics yet but i must say the setup is really really nice. 9x5 ft screen for scrogging and im using DP Blueberry, DP strawberry cough, and AMS white widow. u can check my other grow i did a while back with the widow. turned out very nice and im hoping this will be even better. have you heard about humbolts purple max and gravity flower hardener? im thinking im gonna try em out.