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diggs99

diggs99

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Post #6000 frank, milestone!!

Frank Nitty said:
I have been vegging a GG4 x CD for about 50 to 60 days cause its in with some autos... Since its so big now do I still have to 12/12 it to get it to flower??? Is that just the perfect formula??? Has anyone tried anything different??? Is there a faster way??? I could have started a thread about this but i figured that the answers I would get would be mostly from people who are in this thread... Especially the MAN HIMSELF!!! Needless to say,however it goes,im starting flower today... If 12/12 is it,then thats what it is...
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Not sure im understanding your question?

I think the changing of the time from 18/6 or 24/0 to 12/12 is what triggers the plants to start forming bud. I dont think it matters how long you veg them for, they still need the time change to get going.

Long veg will def speed up the process tho, they should start showing flowers real quick after you flip.
 
GreenHighlander

GreenHighlander

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Frank Nitty said:
I have been vegging a GG4 x CD for about 50 to 60 days cause its in with some autos... Since its so big now do I still have to 12/12 it to get it to flower??? Is that just the perfect formula??? Has anyone tried anything different??? Is there a faster way??? I could have started a thread about this but i figured that the answers I would get would be mostly from people who are in this thread... Especially the MAN HIMSELF!!! Needless to say,however it goes,im starting flower today... If 12/12 is it,then thats what it is...
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Lots have tried lots different. There is no faster way. Personally I use 13 off 11 on but that is only because I have seen no loss in growth from 12/12. %0-60 days is not a crazy long veg as most plants don't show sex until after the 6th week. 6-8 weeks is when they usually stagger growth and tighten up a bit.
Size has nothing to do with initiating flowering. It is all about the daylight hours.

Cheers :)
 
Frank Nitty

Frank Nitty

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diggs99 said:
Post #6000 frank, milestone!!



Not sure im understanding your question?

I think the changing of the time from 18/6 or 24/0 to 12/12 is what triggers the plants to start forming bud. I dont think it matters how long you veg them for, they still need the time change to get going.

Long veg will def speed up the process tho, they should start showing flowers real quick after you flip.
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I think I understand... So it HAS to be 12/12 to flower...
 
Frank Nitty

Frank Nitty

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diggs99 said:
Post #6000 frank, milestone!!



Not sure im understanding your question?

I think the changing of the time from 18/6 or 24/0 to 12/12 is what triggers the plants to start forming bud. I dont think it matters how long you veg them for, they still need the time change to get going.

Long veg will def speed up the process tho, they should start showing flowers real quick after you flip.
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Who has 6000 posts??? Me??? Or you???
 
diggs99

diggs99

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GreenHighlander said:
Lots have tried lots different. There is no faster way. Personally I use 13 off 11 on but that is only because I have seen no loss in growth from 12/12. %0-60 days is not a crazy long veg as most plants don't show sex until after the 6th week. 6-8 weeks is when they usually stagger growth and tighten up a bit.
Size has nothing to do with initiating flowering. It is all about the daylight hours.

Cheers :)
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According to a thread on here( cant remember which tho), its claimed that a longer vegged plant will transition to flower faster than a shorter vegged plant.

I have no clue one way or the other, just repeating what ive read lol
 
GreenHighlander

GreenHighlander

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diggs99 said:
According to a thread on here( cant remember which tho), its claimed that a longer vegged plant will transition to flower faster than a shorter vegged plant.

I have no clue one way or the other, just repeating what ive read lol
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Sexual maturity is sexual maturity. A plant will not start flowering until it has reached that maturity no matter what the daylight hours.

Cheers :)
 
TWest65

TWest65

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Frank Nitty said:
I have been vegging a GG4 x CD for about 50 to 60 days cause its in with some autos... Since its so big now do I still have to 12/12 it to get it to flower??? Is that just the perfect formula??? Has anyone tried anything different??? Is there a faster way??? I could have started a thread about this but i figured that the answers I would get would be mostly from people who are in this thread... Especially the MAN HIMSELF!!! Needless to say,however it goes,im starting flower today... If 12/12 is it,then thats what it is...
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When I read that, I had a mental image of the autos urging the photo to flower. "Awww. Come on, give it a try. It's easy. Watch.... See how easy that was, now you try." Lol
 
diggs99

diggs99

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GreenHighlander said:
Sexual maturity is sexual maturity. A plant will not start flowering until it has reached that maturity no matter what the daylight hours.

Cheers :)
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Ya i may be remembering it a little wrong, maybe that was the comparison, sexually mature as opposed to young plant still not quite there, obv its gonna take the young plant longer to start flowering if its not mature yet lol

makes sense
 
Frank Nitty

Frank Nitty

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GreenHighlander said:
Lots have tried lots different. There is no faster way. Personally I use 13 off 11 on but that is only because I have seen no loss in growth from 12/12. %0-60 days is not a crazy long veg as most plants don't show sex until after the 6th week. 6-8 weeks is when they usually stagger growth and tighten up a bit.
Size has nothing to do with initiating flowering. It is all about the daylight hours.

Cheers :)
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I should veg for another week or two then???15673749958328031453121817916060.jpg 15673750621951531181879689285721.jpg
 
GreenHighlander

GreenHighlander

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diggs99 said:
Ya i may be remembering it a little wrong, maybe that was the comparison, sexually mature as opposed to young plant still not quite there, obv its gonna take the young plant longer to start flowering if its not mature yet lol

makes sense
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IMHO there seems to be levels to maturity. It seems to be common practice nowadays for a plant to be declared sexually mature as soon as it shows its pre flowers. But the way I learned it was that , that was just showing sex. They are sexually mature once they start staggering/ alternating their node growth .
I prime example of the maturity thing is the fact that seeds grown 12/12 from the start really don't flower any faster then plants vegged first.

This is also all from seed talk. Obviously clones are as old as the plants they were taken from.

Cheers :)
 
FlakeyFoont

FlakeyFoont

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Frank, 12/12 for flower is just a guideline, lol! I've had plants accidentally flower at 14/10, and have been running a 10/14 for a couple of years.

Like others have said, they ain't gonna flower until the branches start alternating... then it's up to you. Long veg, bigger plants.

Onward to the TC testers.

#1 at 56 days. Went away for a week, and defoliated before that. They are in 3G airpots of coco, on Mega Crop and their P/K at 1.5ec, pH6.0. Starting to get a bit of a sweet smell that's not really sweet, if that makes sense. Maybe some chocolate?

Stalks are thick, and a lot of the colas are branchy, so there's even more tight buddage. I will probably start flushing her soon.

She's my fav, lol!
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Frank Nitty

Frank Nitty

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FlakeyFoont said:
Frank, 12/12 for flower is just a guideline, lol! I've had plants accidentally flower at 14/10, and have been running a 10/14 for a couple of years.

Like others have said, they ain't gonna flower until the branches start alternating... then it's up to you. Long veg, bigger plants.

Onward to the TC testers.

#1 at 56 days. Went away for a week, and defoliated before that. They are in 3G airpots of coco, on Mega Crop and their P/K at 1.5ec, pH6.0. Starting to get a bit of a sweet smell that's not really sweet, if that makes sense. Maybe some chocolate?

Stalks are thick, and a lot of the colas are branchy, so there's even more tight buddage. I will probably start flushing her soon.

She's my fav, lol!
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56 days total???
 
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