Useful Seeds

dankbydrew said:
No offense, but that feels like pretty heavy deflection. What kind of stress testing did the bag of skunks n oranges go through? Seems like a better train of thought for this thread. All love, just trying to learn.
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Neutral ground here, but I to would be thinking about a light leak or some other kind of stress when more than one gets sexually frustrated like that. Light would be my first check, idk with that many plants if you can get in there with the lights off but I'd try, so you could rule it out. Sit in the dark for a good 15 minutes, gotta make sure you have a complete 12 hr uninterrupted dark cycle. Jmho
 
dankbydrew said:
No offense, but that feels like pretty heavy deflection. What kind of stress testing did the bag of skunks n oranges go through? Seems like a better train of thought for this thread. All love, just trying to learn.
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No offence taken, I did not mean to deflect, I merely was asking a question about your other herms.
 
dankbydrew said:
No offense, but that feels like pretty heavy deflection. What kind of stress testing did the bag of skunks n oranges go through? Seems like a better train of thought for this thread. All love, just trying to learn.
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I don’t think it’s a deflection, I think it’s a fair question when you have multiple strains from different genetic lines turning herm. Useful will have your back if youre unhappy with your purchase from him, he’s a stand up guy.
 
It was never a doubt about being a stand up guy, but I don’t understand why the question about the extent of testing is being ignored???
My last grow in the tent was fine. Who cares how many strains I’m growing and where they came from. How about the extent of stress testing these seeds underwent?
 
The problem is you would prolly be the only one of maybe 3 reports in over a year or so of any of Useful's work of being herms. And you are having it with multiple plants. Screams of a light leak. Stressing a sat Dom plant. Maybe a lil rootbound action goin on. So you see, the onus is prolly more on you to prove you aren't having problems on your end than to quick blame genetics that no one else is having problems with, you understand, I'm sure. Your one previous mentioned grow vs his huge amount of genetics across the land begs not to worry bout testing procedures as much as finding that lil grower error we all make sometimes.
 
dankbydrew said:
It was never a doubt about being a stand up guy, but I don’t understand why the question about the extent of testing is being ignored???
My last grow in the tent was fine. Who cares how many strains I’m growing and where they came from. How about the extent of stress testing these seeds underwent?
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I'm curious about what you mean by stress testing?
 
This is just ridiculous. How many people have successfully grown out the Skunks n Oranges and how were they tested? 2/2 skunks and oranges are total herms. 2/2 of a random landrace cross that I bought directly on IG have hermed. One random chuck I did for fun has 1 ball. The other 12 plants I have are absolutely totally happy. Thanks to everyone chiming in to point the finger at me, really helpful!! :wall:
 
pthobson said:
I was going to say the same with you reporting herms from various strains. Could be a number of different stressors that are causing this. Things you may not even think about. Useful is more or less giving these seeds away.
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You made me think of other possible stressors. I just realized, I light tested my room in the summertime. I have a heater in there now, and I have no idea if it has a glow to it when it's heating. Got some work to do tonight after lights out. Thank you!!
 
dankbydrew said:
This is just ridiculous. How many people have successfully grown out the Skunks n Oranges and how were they tested? 2/2 skunks and oranges are total herms. 2/2 of a random landrace cross that I bought directly on IG have hermed. One random chuck I did for fun has 1 ball. The other 12 plants I have are absolutely totally happy. Thanks to everyone chiming in to point the finger at me, really helpful!! :wall:
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I don’t have a number for you, but i know of at least one person who has grown this a few times without issue. I know Useful has grown the orange line an insane amount of times. Can’t speak to the Skunk line.

4/5 plants out of 17 definitely seems indicative of environmental stressers. that’s why everyone keeps going back to that. Nobody is trying “point the finger”, we are trying to help you find what may be causing the plants to herm, so if it is something you can fix, you will be able to.
 
Christ...this thread is 356 pages long and was started in 2007....this is the first whiff of a herm......guess who I’m gonna figure is the problem. Bad breeders get pointed out quick here. Now if a month from now there tons of reports of it happening....but honestly I don’t see that happening.
 
Coalcat said:
Christ...this thread is 356 pages long and was started in 2007....this is the first whiff of a herm......guess who I’m gonna figure is the problem. Bad breeders get pointed out quick here. Now if a month from now there tons of reports of it happening....but honestly I don’t see that happening.
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Alright, thanks guys! You’re all the best!!! So helpful and friendly. What great input. So happy to hear about the extensive testing and other successful grows of these seeds! :wall:
Sorry I bothered you all and asked. Have a great day and best of luck with your grows. Peace out.
 
Coalcat said:
Christ...this thread is 356 pages long and was started in 2007....this is the first whiff of a herm......guess who I’m gonna figure is the problem. Bad breeders get pointed out quick here. Now if a month from now there tons of reports of it happening....but honestly I don’t see that happening.
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oh, and for the record, I believe there was a pack pulled from sale for herms
 
dankbydrew said:
This is just ridiculous. How many people have successfully grown out the Skunks n Oranges and how were they tested? 2/2 skunks and oranges are total herms. 2/2 of a random landrace cross that I bought directly on IG have hermed. One random chuck I did for fun has 1 ball. The other 12 plants I have are absolutely totally happy. Thanks to everyone chiming in to point the finger at me, really helpful!! :wall:
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I think a few have in this thread and they haven't had any herm issues (if memory serves). I personally can vouch for his Appy x BoO as ive grown it and they've come out flawlessly (really recommend em as well). I dont think people are directly pointing the finger at you; I think its just everyone attempting to figure out what's going on, or at least thats how I interpret it. But, out of 16 plants, 4 have hermed, if I am understanding your total plant count correctly (2 useful herms, 2 IG herms, and 12 good ones). That's a 25% herm rate; which is high considering most fems have something like a 0.01% chance of herming. Are you running soil or hydro and are all of the herms located next to or near each other?
 
BDGrows said:
I think a few have in this thread and they haven't had any herm issues (if memory serves). I personally can vouch for his Appy x BoO as ive grown it and they've come out flawlessly (really recommend em as well). I dont think people are directly pointing the finger at you; I think its just everyone attempting to figure out what's going on, or at least thats how I interpret it. But, out of 16 plants, 4 have hermed, if I am understanding your total plant count correctly (2 useful herms, 2 IG herms, and 12 good ones). That's a 25% herm rate; which is high considering most fems have something like a 0.01% chance of herming. Are you running soil or hydro and are all of the herms located next to or near each other?
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I’m over it dude. I popped 40 seeds and ended up with 4 full herms. 2 strains from 2 breeders. Still no mention if the seeds were tested at all, but Useful did a great job at deflecting that. They were all in different spots in the tent. I grow organically in soil. Hopefully it’s all me, but I still can’t get any real answers in this thread. :spew::peace:
 
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