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Skiball

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Seeing all of y'alls grow is getting me excited. For me planning and seeing it all come together is the best part. Ordered all new lights with 1800 watt driver n 16 288 lm561c boards. Also trying my hand at dry nutes n figuring the ratios out. Only have one grow under my belt with the bucket flood n drain system I built. So lots of variables to hash out but will def be worth it.
 

Frank Nitty

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Seeing all of y'alls grow is getting me excited. For me planning and seeing it all come together is the best part. Ordered all new lights with 1800 watt driver n 16 288 lm561c boards. Also trying my hand at dry nutes n figuring the ratios out. Only have one grow under my belt with the bucket flood n drain system I built. So lots of variables to hash out but will def be worth it.
Good luck!!! We'll be watching!!! At least I will be...
 

Stoned Cold Bulldog

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Just keep reading old threads and doing your research. I've learned a lot from the peeps in here. Everyone's usually happy to answer questions or at least link you to the old thread that's already answered it. I still have a lot to learn, but grow more and more confident with every harvest thanks to the community!
I do exactly that and have been doing it since 1st. joining Over Grow before the fall circa 03/04. I DO THE SAME SHIT WITH MARTIAL ARTS AND DOGS.i still can't type though lol.
girl asked me wyd. i said looking at weed site and weed types. she said oh. she asks later what i was doing again. i said "the same thing i was doing before" lol lol lol. she said - damn all that time?
i said "i do this every day i'm not the avg weed dude"

i worked in a warehouse that was mainly geared to porn mags. yet, just so happens my section also had tattoos & piercings, motorcycles, and pot magazines. they asked me why i keep going over the same ones. because i get ideas from other things i have come across or experienced and it makes it so certain info is hardwired in me...

i look at so many threads, both current and all the way to ancient all the time so i have 15 yrs in minimum from online resources. hell that's how i found this thread doing recon on useless gear lol.
my vault has approx 344 various strains and crosses. many not commercially available and never have been. i still look for reference info on the strains and crosses i have. so just imagine adding info in bookmarks etc for later use to build a proper strain library that's actually organized in various ways. i sure wish they had software to do that. i'd like various categories to list a large genetic inventory in seed/live plants.

category examples
1. alphabetical order
2. indy dom, sat dom, hybrid
3. flower time
4. yield
5 easy/difficult to clone w/approx. times
6. stoned/high effects to include medical
7. vigor in veg/flower, stretch
8. compatibility = plays well with others in crosses or is desirable for breeding
9. Taste and aroma ; must be scrubbed well because of high odor
10. high's duration/ceiling/terp profile

So if some computer genius knows a freeware source program that can do this let me know. it has to be usable by a non computer geek though. ijs lol
 

socaljoe

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Seeing all of y'alls grow is getting me excited. For me planning and seeing it all come together is the best part. Ordered all new lights with 1800 watt driver n 16 288 lm561c boards. Also trying my hand at dry nutes n figuring the ratios out. Only have one grow under my belt with the bucket flood n drain system I built. So lots of variables to hash out but will def be worth it.
If you're going to get into dry nutes, I'd suggest hitting YouTube and watching a video on Jack's 3-2-1 by greengenesgarden. He really breaks things down and makes it easier to understand.
 

GrowRijt

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my vault has approx 344 various strains and crosses. many not commercially available and never have been. i still look for reference info on the strains and crosses i have. so just imagine adding info in bookmarks etc for later use to build a proper strain library that's actually organized in various ways. i sure wish they had software to do that. i'd like various categories to list a large genetic inventory in seed/live plants.

category examples
1. alphabetical order
2. indy dom, sat dom, hybrid
3. flower time
4. yield
5 easy/difficult to clone w/approx. times
6. stoned/high effects to include medical
7. vigor in veg/flower, stretch
8. compatibility = plays well with others in crosses or is desirable for breeding
9. Taste and aroma ; must be scrubbed well because of high odor
10. high's duration/ceiling/terp profile

So if some computer genius knows a freeware source program that can do this let me know. it has to be usable by a non computer geek though. ijs lol
I would pop open a google sheet. (Free excel spreadsheet ) and make your columns. I have one, but not with as many packs as you. bongsmilie
 

Skiball

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Ya I been researching it a lot a lot. Tired of buying bottles after 15 yrs. Got it down to master blend at 1/4 to 1/2 dose with cal-n epsom closer to full dosage. Then peters stem to supplement micro and chelated cal during flower to lower n. Along with growmore Hawaiian/hula and a bunch of other goodies from kelp4less. Also trying a liquid pond beneficial bacteria from green vista.
 
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Stoned Cold Bulldog

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I really wish you hadn't asked me that question.But I have to be honest no matter what, from my reading , the Pine Tar Kush is actually NDNGUYS 1979 Christmas Tree Bud, who knows??? I do know that NDNGUY wanted this 1979Christmas Tree Bud seed to be spread across the canna community in a big way for free.. Here I am ,doing just that .
to be clear some folks might even get confused and think PTK is actually christmas bud or vice versa. but no they are two different strains. only confusion is that the real xmas bud seeds might have been swapped and replaced with ptk instead. at any rate it's said in the thread that xmas bud on it's on isn't all that special really aside from that piney taste. seeing what you have testing that high % makes me think u have a different xmas bud all together whicj makes this whole xmas bud thing crazy smdh.

this is the thread i read before getting to your hilarious response here moments ago.
https://www.thcfarmer.com/community/threads/ndns-79-xmas-bud.69166/

yeah i got the 1. BSH x G13/HASH PLANT
2. BSH x G13/HASH PLANT x G13/HASH PLANT
3. BSH x G13/HASH PLANT x Conquistador
4. BSH x G13 F3 = i think it's actually g13/hp and the F3 might be my mistake. not sure but it's how i wrote it down
5. TOM HILLS PTK F2's
6. TOM HILLS Haze Mau Mau pheno spelling and it;s slightly herm at the end of flower.

i swore i had the 88g13/hp all this time but i guess i just got confused
 

Useful Seeds

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to be clear some folks might even get confused and think PTK is actually christmas bud or vice versa. but no they are two different strains. only confusion is that the real xmas bud seeds might have been swapped and replaced with ptk instead. at any rate it's said in the thread that xmas bud on it's on isn't all that special really aside from that piney taste. seeing what you have testing that high % makes me think u have a different xmas bud all together whicj makes this whole xmas bud thing crazy smdh.

this is the thread i read before getting to your hilarious response here moments ago.
https://www.thcfarmer.com/community/threads/ndns-79-xmas-bud.69166/

yeah i got the 1. BSH x G13/HASH PLANT
2. BSH x G13/HASH PLANT x G13/HASH PLANT
3. BSH x G13/HASH PLANT x Conquistador
4. BSH x G13 F3 = i think it's actually g13/hp and the F3 might be my mistake. not sure but it's how i wrote it down
5. TOM HILLS PTK F2's
6. TOM HILLS Haze Mau Mau pheno spelling and it;s slightly herm at the end of flower.

i swore i had the 88g13/hp all this time but i guess i just got confused
Thanks a bunch for all of that info...I really appreciate it. When I get a package of seed labeled NDNGUY...there is a bit of trust involved with that...for me personally. I reckon it is a good thing i'm doing this project to make freebie seeds, not charging like some others are.



When the seeds are ready, feel free to hit me up, I will put a pack aside for ya my friend. We could get to the bottom of this together.
 

Frank Nitty

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Thanks a bunch for all of that info...I really appreciate it. When I get a package of seed labeled NDNGUY...there is a bit of trust involved with that...for me personally. I reckon it is a good thing i'm doing this project to make freebie seeds, not charging like some others are.



When the seeds are ready, feel free to hit me up, I will put a pack aside for ya my friend. We could get to the bottom of this together.
I have no idea what you guys are talking about cause I've never heard of ctb or ptk, but im tuned in to the station to catch the action!!!
 

althor

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I have no idea what you guys are talking about cause I've never heard of ctb or ptk, but im tuned in to the station to catch the action!!!
I started smoking it in the early 80s, and had it every winter through the mid 90s and then it disappeared. If it is real christmas bud, it is a treat. I know a lot of older people want to talk about how good weed was, and there was occassional special weed, but todays bud is much better. The exceptions were christmas tree bud and some of the top shelf skunk. There were a lot of different grades of skunk, from good to fantastic, Christmas tree was always the same. Skunk was a more stoney buzz, christmas tree was very cerebral, trippy type bud.
 

Frank Nitty

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I started smoking it in the early 80s, and had it every winter through the mid 90s and then it disappeared. If it is real christmas bud, it is a treat. I know a lot of older people want to talk about how good weed was, and there was occassional special weed, but todays bud is much better. The exceptions were christmas tree bud and some of the top shelf skunk. There were a lot of different grades of skunk, from good to fantastic, Christmas tree was always the same. Skunk was a more stoney buzz, christmas tree was very cerebral, trippy type bud.
I definitely want to get some of that!!! I'll grow it with the LVRK!!! Useful would love to see that, I'm sure!!!
 

Stoned Cold Bulldog

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Haha, my friend told me to tell you no go on Adam Dunn...how funny is that??? Josh Kelly is the guy ya want.
Yes, Adam know x,y,z so far as the plant is concerned but he's a poser and not to be trusted as he babbles and lies about stuff he knows most folks won't have a clue about. Ironically he's chosen this path and didn't have too. people seem to take their own lives and the good they have accomplished in the past and decide to go in the opposite direction. too often rooted in greed/delusion imho.
we were going to see him in Colorado but we didn't have car access. now i'm glad i didn't waste my time lol.
 

Stoned Cold Bulldog

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Should I remove the big fan leaves? View attachment 4184677
you only need to do that if the plant is farther along in flower and they are blocking light to buds and even then i wouldn't remove more than a few leaves but not the whole fan leaf. do your home work on vegging and flowering basics so u understand why certain things are done while others aren't and then fit it all to your personal circumstance with the plant telling you the essentials of how to proceed based on your goals.
 

Frank Nitty

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you only need to do that if the plant is farther along in flower and they are blocking light to buds and even then i wouldn't remove more than a few leaves but not the whole fan leaf. do your home work on vegging and flowering basics so u understand why certain things are done while others aren't and then fit it all to your personal circumstance with the plant telling you the essentials of how to proceed based on your goals.
Thank you sir for the knowledge!!! And I will read up on it... This is like on the job training for the best job in the world!!!
 

maxamus1

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to be clear some folks might even get confused and think PTK is actually christmas bud or vice versa. but no they are two different strains. only confusion is that the real xmas bud seeds might have been swapped and replaced with ptk instead. at any rate it's said in the thread that xmas bud on it's on isn't all that special really aside from that piney taste. seeing what you have testing that high % makes me think u have a different xmas bud all together whicj makes this whole xmas bud thing crazy smdh.

this is the thread i read before getting to your hilarious response here moments ago.
https://www.thcfarmer.com/community/threads/ndns-79-xmas-bud.69166/

yeah i got the 1. BSH x G13/HASH PLANT
2. BSH x G13/HASH PLANT x G13/HASH PLANT
3. BSH x G13/HASH PLANT x Conquistador
4. BSH x G13 F3 = i think it's actually g13/hp and the F3 might be my mistake. not sure but it's how i wrote it down
5. TOM HILLS PTK F2's
6. TOM HILLS Haze Mau Mau pheno spelling and it;s slightly herm at the end of flower.

i swore i had the 88g13/hp all this time but i guess i just got confused
After reading that thread im comming to my own conclusion on xmas bud. It seems to me that those on the east coast have a different version of xmas bud then west coast and select circles had a cut of it. I know in nc in 99/02 we had it around xmas time for a month or two and then it was gone till the following year. But it had the taste, smell and high but it seems as though it goes further back then that to atleast the 80's. It is weird how it just disappeared though. This is what leads me to believe that it was a cut only that just was just lost over time, still strange how no one has claimed this strain as their creation or that no one is certain of its origin.
 
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