Useful Seeds

Shmozz said:

All strains labled S1 are fem. "Self seeded" shortened to S1... Which differs from "Filial generation" seed or F1, whose sex is indetermined.

F1 hybrids have a range of genetics from each parent to draw from, making pheno hunting a fun way to find a strain that embodies the characteristics of the parent you prefer. F2 is when you take a male and female from the same F1 stock to breed again. This narrows down the desired traits throughout the generations to create a more stable and consistent plant.

i.e. taking a male and female from the same seed stock that grow similar, smell similar and are overall genetically similar, will produce seeds that are more uniform and have less genetic diversity from the previous generation. And lines worked through F3, F4 and so on will produce plants that the breeders are trying ultimately trying to make. (Aficianado seeds has some stellar plants worked to the F11 generation that they make crosses with)

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Frank Nitty said:

I got some F3 Stardawg from useful too!!! I can learn a lot from you Shmozz!!! You have a bank of good information about growing, I can tell!!! Thanks for the help in clearing that up for me!!!

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BionicΩChronic said:

one of my largest this season is a Stardawg f3!

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Frank Nitty said:

I got some F3 Stardawg from useful too!!! I can learn a lot from you Shmozz!!! You have a bank of good information about growing, I can tell!!! Thanks for the help in clearing that up for me!!!

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Shmozz said:

Useful knows his stuff, and I'm happy to be testing some of his stuff right now. I'm on vacation, so I can't wait to see how my chocolate covered strawberries x fire cookies are looking when I get back! (Luckily I have a trusted family member looking after them) I'm sure the stardawg f3's will contain some fine specimens. He sent me a few Aficianado f2's that I'll be popping once I have more space. I know there will be something I'll want to keep around for a while.

Just keep reading old threads and doing your research. I've learned a lot from the peeps in here. Everyone's usually happy to answer questions or at least link you to the old thread that's already answered it. I still have a lot to learn, but grow more and more confident with every harvest thanks to the community!

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Frank Nitty said:

So what was the ratio of male to female

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40AmpstoFreedom said:

If this is something you are watering in you would just turn the res off until the pots dry out enough you can manually water it in. If its something you amend before planting then you just do it before obviously. Should be easy enough I'd imagine.

How often do you add this stuff? If its a lot why not just build a complete living soil mix so nothing ever needs to be added or use BE-1 pellets? Something that dissolves over time...?

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Shmozz said:

All strains labled S1 are fem. "Self seeded" shortened to S1... Which differs from "Filial generation" seed or F1, whose sex is indetermined.

F1 hybrids have a range of genetics from each parent to draw from, making pheno hunting a fun way to find a strain that embodies the characteristics of the parent you prefer. F2 is when you take a male and female from the same F1 stock to breed again. This narrows down the desired traits throughout the generations to create a more stable and consistent plant.

i.e. taking a male and female from the same seed stock that grow similar, smell similar and are overall genetically similar, will produce seeds that are more uniform and have less genetic diversity from the previous generation. And lines worked through F3, F4 and so on will produce plants that the breeders are trying ultimately trying to make. (Aficianado seeds has some stellar plants worked to the F11 generation that they make crosses with)

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Useful said:

Thanks for the kind words you guys...really means a lot to me.

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Frank Nitty said:

Wow that's extra scientific shit!!!

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BionicΩChronic said:

Also if you take a clone from a plant. cross the mother with something find that you like the cross but want it to be more like the mother
Hit that f1 with the CLONE of the mother used in the cross. That's called a bx.

And Every time you cross back to the mother it's adds a bx so bx1 bx2 and so on so forth.

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Frank Nitty said:

How. Do. You. Do. That???!!!!! That's what I want to know...

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BionicΩChronic said:

Say you like an og kush so you take a clone and flower out the plant. While flowered you hit it with male pollen. Cross the one of the resulting offspring with the clone you took from the og Kush n bam!!! bx1

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BionicΩChronic said:

Also if you take a clone from a plant. cross the mother with something find that you like the cross but want it to be more like the mother
Hit that f1 with the CLONE of the mother used in the cross. That's called a bx.

And Every time you cross back to the mother it's adds a bx so bx1 bx2 and so on so forth.

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Useful said:

I am doin a Chem 91 SKVA BX. Gonna do a Chem D BX as well.

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Frank Nitty said:

And you get seeds from them, or are they all females?
They will be regular seeds.For the Chem 91 I am hunting through some Moontang f2s looking for a proper male. I made the f2s for this project,better chance of finding that special guy by popping large amount of seeds.

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Useful said:

They will be regular seeds.For the Chem 91 I am hunting through some Moontang f2s looking for a proper male. I made the f2s for this project,better chance of finding that special guy by popping large amount of seeds.

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greywind said:

That sounds like a beautiful project. I have quite a few Stardawg & Tres Dawg crosses in my stable, but nothing in the way of Chem 91 genetics. Good luck finding a nice stud in those Moontangs. I'll keep an eye out for this one my friend.

Also, I'm finally getting around to some of those genetics you hooked me up with. Going to drop some of the White Lotus x Sasquatch. Cheers and happy hunting!

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