Using Native Soils.

I grow on a dry creek bank, not far from my vegetable garden. Though I live in KY and without giving too much info, my soil and climate are more like Memphis, TN than say, Lexington and your more mountainous regions. My creek lies downhill from a large farming field, that rotates between wheat, soybeans, corn and tobacco and is fertilized heavily with both chemical and chicken manure fertilizer. Every drop of rain and every piece of soil that washes off of that field winds up on the low-lying, bottom ground beside of the dry creek. It's a very rich, loose, loamy type soil, which consists of sand, silt and clay. I didn't grow weed there the first year, just veggies. To my amazement, the plants and the veggies themselves grew to Goliath proportions and bared of such abundance to wow some old time gardeners. I've used and planted directly into the native soil on that bank ever since without buying much more than a load of chicken shit each year to compost and make tea with.

To be honest, I've always just found a spot with a huge blackberry briar thicket, with huge, thumb-sized blackberry vines. These thickets grow massive in size and to heights of 10-15 feet. Anyway, the fertility and ph of the soil here, which makes these blackberry vines and tobacco plants grow big, must be perfect for cannabis, because it grows massive plants, with little necessary added amendments for above average results.

Sunbiz1 said:

It was recommended for vegging outdoors by Jorge Cervantes, due to barnyard having a high N content. As you may recall, I had to deal with yellowing leaves all summer.

Also picked-up some Earth Juice bloom yesterday for the indoor drizella ladies I'm about to flip, but guessing that it would work well for in-grounds.

As you can see, I'm doing a lot of guessing these days!.

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what is barnyard ? manure ?

I think he means like horse manure that comes from a stall, for instance. The horse pisses all over the manure, giving it a high 'N' value.

Sunbiz1 said:

Not enough nutes for a 6 month in-ground in corn-belt Illinois, at least the top 2/3 of the state.

http://www.espoma.com/p_consumer/tones_plant.html

I used this in addition to soil amending in Illinois, as per bag instructions for in-grounds...and should have tripled the amount used.
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LOL, goldenrod companion planting I see! People constantly having to move and amend there soils must have killer cardio!

Smidge34 said:

I think he means like horse manure that comes from a stall, for instance. The horse pisses all over the manure, giving it a high 'N' value.

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That shit works. Lol. I got some compost this year that was largely composted cow manure, it still smelled like piss when I got it. The plants loved it.

VTMi'kmaq said:

LOL, goldenrod companion planting I see! People constantly having to move and amend there soils must have killer cardio!

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Try hiking/biking a few miles, in 90 plus heat...then the real work begins w/no shade.

I do sort of miss it though, something about profuse sweating is a cleansing sort of thing...Nah,lol.

Smidge34 said:

I think he means like horse manure that comes from a stall, for instance. The horse pisses all over the manure, giving it a high 'N' value.

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Exactly, I can dump it fresh this time of year for Spring...or easily compost in Spring by simply leaving a pile to age.

Hmm, think I'll do that next to the neighbor I don't care for.

Ok Biz, I usually get my chicken shit pile when the local Mennonite chicken farmers spread on fields in early spring and some of it is still a little hot, but with some sunshine, moisture and turning the pile, seems to look ready fast. I ways wonder if leaving it out in the elements like I do to compost is the right way. ? .

Smidge34 said:

Ok Biz, I usually get my chicken shit pile when the local Mennonite chicken farmers spread on fields in early spring and some of it is still a little hot, but with some sunshine, moisture and turning the pile, seems to look ready fast. I ways wonder if leaving it out in the elements like I do to compost is the right way. ? .

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Mennonite chicken farmers?...I'll bet they have the best shit in the state...just messin' w/you.

Best answer I can give online is attached to a supply center...at the bottom you will find a read more link. That is where the poultry text etc is located.

http://www.gardensalive.com/article.asp?ai=843

Poultry. Hotter than hot! More than twice as hot as horse manure, so a little goes a long, long way. Mix small amounts of this material well into your compost piles and the result will be a powerful organic fertilizer. Again, keep the amounts small—and even then, keep an eye on any fruiting and flowering plants that receive this gift. If they get big but under-produce otherwise, back off a little. But feel free to use fairly large amounts on Nitrogen hungry plants like sweet corn.

I used worm shit some years back. A little goes a long way too.

Yeah, I learned it was hot the hard way.

I like the chicken shit, but it'll kill faster than you would believe!! Be very careful. Leave it for at least 6 months or work it regularly and amend it with some "brown" plant matter like leaves or straw. It needs to cool.

I'm a little nervous about the couple gallons I just added to my prep holes. I am hoping that it will cool enough over the winter for me to cover and plant on in the spring.

If you let a pile just sit for a few months then plant Zucchini, squash, or pumpkins in it... you should see them grow!! Green everywhere!! Of course too much Nitrogen without the rest does not mean those massive vines will produce more. You need to add P and K to the mix.